Claimed COP of more then 1,000,000 (million)

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Below is a quote from fletchmo found on this page, PESN Rebuttal from 3 years ago: http://pesn.com/2008/11/30/9501504_ZeroAmpTech-demo/

I was there on November 24th 2008 to watch this demo. In fact, I stayed on for a week. The closer I got to Peter Sumaruck, the more I realized he was nothing more than a common charlatan. As we attempted to properly measure the in and out of his device, he grew more belligerent. The language he used shouldn't be repeated in a forum like this. But let us say that he let us know that he felt that electrical engineers "Don't know a f***king thing". His knowledge of electronics seemed to be limited to DC circuits alone and he never showed a true understanding of the 3-phase systems he claims to have mastered. He didn't seem to know what reactive power was. In what I would consider one of his crude warnings, prior to our measurement with a phase angle device used to determine the power used by 3 phase Air conditioning systems (He would not let us use an oscilloscope), he produced his nickel-silver, model 1911 .45 caliber semi-automatic pistol. He put in the magazine, locked and loaded the weapon and put it on the table in front of me. Sort of a "believe me or I'll kill you" Approach. The tiny wire input was impressive, but in retrospect it was 22 gauge and capable in open chassis of handling 7 amps according to the American Wire Gauge Table. The input wires were in open air and not in any kind of conduit so that qualifies for open chassis wiring. The input voltage was 220 volts and I measured about 3 amps--Pete claimed much lower power input. To the tune of .5 watt. We measured about 600 watts. According to the manufacturer, one of the large 5 HP motors took 200 watts to run without any load--and NONE of the motors had a load. The total power needed to run all the motors without load based on the 5 hp model was about 600 watts. I remember Sterling (I think it was Sterling) put friction on one of the motors and caused the small wires to melt. This really PO'd Pete. Another one of those f***ing engineers..... We left Pete's demonstration feeling like we wasted a week of our time. 
It is my opinion that he doesn't know what he's doing except to cheat people out of donations. I think he's very good at that alone. Again my opinion is that he doesn't understand electronics beyond that of a mediocre technician but he has the chutzpah of a PT Barnum. Don't be fooled by this man.

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Below is a quote from fletchmo found on this page, PESN Rebuttal from 3 years ago: http://pesn.com/2008/11/30/9501504_ZeroAmpTech-demo/

That reply was date 5-16-2011 after there had been discussion in the other thread on Zero Amp tech.  Who is Fletchmo?  Anyone can post anything on the Internet.  I just find it interesting that popped up after some things that were said in the other thread.   And I'm not totally supporting Sumaruck here but just want to give him the benefit of the doubt.  He has enemies for sure.  And anyone with a real world usable energy device is going to have serious enemies. 

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That reply was date 5-16-2011 after there had been discussion in the other thread on Zero Amp tech.  Who is Fletchmo?  Anyone can post anything on the Internet.  I just find it interesting that popped up after some things that were said in the other thread.   And I'm not totally supporting Sumaruck here but just want to give him the benefit of the doubt.  He has enemies for sure.  And anyone with a real world usable energy device is going to have serious enemies.

I too think people should be careful.  Just as all manner of evil was spoke of Steven Mark, to discredit his work.  I think it is curious, when one reads his story and hears him tell it... I see all of the "potential" for something to be there, and a VERY paranoid (rightly so perhaps) individual.

He sounds like a man who is trying to keep how he does it close to the belt, and it seems it would be easy (based on the stories) for others to figure it out.   My guess is that he has no patents at all.  And the gun, well, I live in Texas, and that is no big deal.  You have to be trained and have a lisence to carry it and it has to be seen, can not be hidden.  That is just par and parcel for being in the backwoods of Texas...lol

I saw no solicitation for money, not even donations on the man's website, nor in any of the radio interviews.  I saw no advertisement of any sort, either, on the man's website.  Interesting...

Cheers,

Bruce

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i dont have enough information to pass judgement on this one yet, but there are a few things i like about this story.

his training and experience as military mechanical/electrical technician is along the lines of a bachelors' education. those of us who are engineers can see the obvious mistakes he makes, and oversight with measurement, and general physical set-up of his circuitry...

Many might see this as a "flaw", or "shortcomming", but i have found in this particular field of research, that a lack of institutionalized education allows many inventors and experimenters to think outside of the box, and not be mentally-constricted by the commonly accepted theories of physics.   And what we know about resonant circuits and constructive interference, his claims are not necessarily outside the realm of possiblity.

There is a foundational history of this man's work and research going back some 22-years. True, it is possible that this whole thing may just be an error in measurement, But one would assume that - in all that time, and all of the people that have worked with him on this project, that he would have connected a load up to this thing that outweighed the input power.
And for him to still be claiming 1-million COP after 22 yrs, gives him some degree of credibility. ( or beligerent deception...)

If he was simply a hoaxer, or scam artist, you would think we would find people that have been ripped off by him, or at least some exposure of this.. Yet all we find is a small handful of individuals that proclaim he would not allow them to take accurate measurements on the input/output of the device..
Which, such measurements could be used (black-box engineering) to decipher his proprietary secrets. So it is not that suprising that he would refuse such a request.

Combine that with 22-yrs of scientists and engineers telling him that hes full of %#^*, and his claims are not possible.....  and the mistrust of those that might wish to bury him and/or his technology..
i have seen many OU-researchers turn hostile when someone starts nit-picking the neccessary details in the measurements of their device.

Thats not to say he is right or wrong here, but i cant discredit him just yet, from the information i have seen.
We need to know more about this device, and perhaps it is time that someone extends an invitation to this inventor to come here to this forum?



The one major problem i see here, is that he is oriented on profiting from his work, and fails to see the greater humanitarian purpose that is served by our research in this field.
This is something that should be explained to him, in hopes that he can come to see the greater good in what we are all doing here.

i get it, sure having loads of cash would be nice, and perhaps in some way i could understand that one thinks they "deserve" payment or compensation for all their hard work, but personally i dont believe there is any materialistic goal that could replace the salvation of all mankind.....  We are being perpetually raped by the powers that control the production and distribution of energy. and Energy controls everything. from harvesting of raw materials, to manufacturing, and production, to the distribution and ultimately the end user cost of every product that any of us buy. It goes far beyond the cost of electricity, natural gas, heating oil, fuels....  it affects Every single thing that we do.