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Trawoeer Power Pyramid Version 12 - Electrical output from a homemade pyramid

Started by hartiberlin, June 28, 2011, 04:05:30 PM

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k4zep

Hi All,

Inner part of Reactor.  Little more work, have to cut/make outer plastic part, wind coils.  Then charge sand.

Picture of progress so far.  Inner reactor and outer coil form complete.  Now to wind the coils.

Ben K4ZEP

AbbaRue

For the pyramid sides, Thomas had the one side open, so it seems only 3 sides need be covered.
I'm still looking for the iron to make the frame.  Built a reactor using stranded wire,
but found out from Thomas that standed wire doesn't work well. 
Around here I am having a hard time finding single stranded wire thinner then 14 AWG (1.63mm). 
I hope to get the dimensions for using 14 AWG wire soon, would make things a lot easier. 
I too am wondering if we can use plastic pipe for the capacitor instead of plastic rod. 
Maybe a test with a capacitor meter would tell us.
comparing the 2 materials with the same amount of windings. 
To charge the sand I'm using a flyback circuit I've had for many years. 
With this one, I can hold the output wire in my fingers without getting a shock,
but my finger tips get very hot after a few seconds holding it.
Also makes my fingertips glow with a blue corona as I hold it.
If I need more current I just use a HV cap with it, won't try touching the wire then though. LOL!

k4zep

Quote from: AbbaRue on July 10, 2011, 04:04:26 PM
For the pyramid sides, Thomas had the one side open, so it seems only 3 sides need be covered.

That would appear to be correct.

I'm still looking for the iron to make the frame.

I don't know if the soft iron or steel in the Pyramid is needed or not, I doubt that I will use much metal in mine, mostly wood and 1/4" gypsum board.

Built a reactor using stranded wire,
but found out from Thomas that standed wire doesn't work well. 

That is what he says in the video and I am just starting to understand this device.
Around here I am having a hard time finding single stranded wire thinner then 14 AWG (1.63mm).

#14 AWG is the smallest I have found here at Home Depot and Lowes hardware store too.  I hope
it will work with that wire and those dimensions as that is what I am using.


I hope to get the dimensions for using 14 AWG wire soon, would make things a lot easier. 
I too am wondering if we can use plastic pipe for the capacitor instead of plastic rod. 
Maybe a test with a capacitor meter would tell us.
comparing the 2 materials with the same amount of windings. 

I have a good "C" meter, after I wind on solid plastic, I'll wind a test unit on common plastic pipe and see
what the difference is, possibly try in the pyramid if the first works.



To charge the sand I'm using a flyback circuit I've had for many years. 
With this one, I can hold the output wire in my fingers without getting a shock,
but my finger tips get very hot after a few seconds holding it.
Also makes my fingertips glow with a blue corona as I hold it.
If I need more current I just use a HV cap with it, won't try touching the wire then though. LOL!

Unfortunately, he doesn't say whether to use AC or DC in the high voltage charging circuit although the RF is a form of AC.  I have a nice 2500VAC solid state power supply to first try or I can use/have DC from 0.0 to 30KV available with enough power to fry eggs!. Of course the insulation will break down long before 30K is reached, probably as another has noted around 3-4 KV, so if I use DC, will set it for 3KV and try it there.

I still have not decided on how I am going to make the Pyramid.

And we continue.

Respectrully Ben K4ZEP

k4zep

Hi All,

Well first try at winding internal coil is a no go.  88 turns of # 14 wire.  Damn thing is shorted where I pulled it through the holes in the tube even with heat shrink tubing there!!!, I have to debur the hole better!.

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhh. 

Well unwind it and going to find some #16 if I have to order it as that will get me around 100+ turns, not to worry, it will be done!.  Picture of coil below.

Many steps forward today, one backwards.  Going to work on another project till wire gets here or I find some locally.

Respectfully
Ben K4ZEP

duff

Quote from: AbbaRue on July 10, 2011, 04:04:26 PM

I'm still looking for the iron to make the frame. 


AbbaRue,

I got my iron tubing from a scrap metal yard. I paid $15 or $20 for it if I recall correctly. On the  current build I'm using tubing I had left over from the  2007.

Anyway - check out your local scrap metal yard.