No fuel, no input, no exhaust, runs cool, high horsepower and torque, on sealed

[mikestocks2006]

rare gases. Is this a true overunity device?
He has working models and claims 500 horsepower, at low rpm, and torque about 4x avg car.
A true overunity device? ZPE input to the treated gases? What do you think?
It looks like an offshoot of the old Papp engine designs?. It seems to work at least on this video

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2850891179207690407

The rare gas treatment seems complicated, but he hold a bottle of about 2 litre in his hands claiming it will run 10 thousand cars for 10-20 years!

[hartiberlin]

This is really amazing..
What do they do with the 3 coils around the cylinders ?
Produce any induction via magnets or just via these
spark pulses ?
At least it is a system, where they remove the batteries,
once the engine has started !
I would like to get more informations on the running principle...
How many gases do they mix together and how much energy
do they feed for firing once the cylinder ?

[mikestocks2006]

This is really amazing..
What do they do with the 3 coils around the cylinders ?
Produce any induction via magnets or just via these
spark pulses ?
At least it is a system, where they remove the batteries,
once the engine has started !
I would like to get more informations on the running principle...
How many gases do they mix together and how much energy
do they feed for firing once the cylinder ?

Yep he removes the two batteries after the initial startup, and on top of it he makes the statement that the device is producing a lot of excess power to the tune of 300 Amps that he is dumping over some resistors.
He didn't say at what voltage is across the excess energy dissipating resistors, but high voltage coils were mentioned early on.

I think he might have mentioned Argon Krypton and Helium, but who knows what he ends up after the "treatment". He yhen fills the cylinder with about a dollar worth that would last for 10-20 years of operation. Possibly he is taping into ZPE/Aehter?

Amazing! maybe he's got it.

[hartiberlin]

I think, this is one of the most promosing technologies I have seen
in the last few years ! I wonder what has happened since 1994 or so,
when these videos were shot ?
Where is this technology currently and are these motor-generators
still available ?

Combing a few of these rare gases is really a good idea.
I had had some interesting effects already with Xenon tubes
2 years back, but I did not have time to check out mixes...
It could well be, that mixes of several of these gases
behave totally strange energy wise.
I wonder, if they used these 3 big coils around the
cylinders just for the plasma EMF induction into the coils
or if they had some permanet magnets on the cylinders
that would convert the mechanical energy
partially into electro-energy this way via the coils ?

I guess one could already win energy energy by the plasma
pulse induction energy output, so I guess
this could also be developped into a solid state overunity device !

Regards, Stefan.

[mikestocks2006]

It appears to be an offshoot of the older Papp engine technology
Stefan,
According to link info, here is the gas blend:
"noble gases employed --- argon, helium, krypton, neon, and xenon --- "
"Rosen stressed that what Papp has done is design a fuel, not an engine. The secret blend of gases is the key"
http://www.rexresearch.com/papp/1papp.htm