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Overunity Machines Forum



Was Bessler for real?

Started by Dr, July 31, 2011, 11:01:33 AM

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onepower

Clues to the Wheel's Design
   

    Machine was set in motion by weights.
    - Bessler

    Weights acted in pairs
    - Bessler

    Weights gained force from their own swinging.
    - Bessler

    Weights came to be placed together, arranged one against another.
    - Bessler

    Weights applied force at right angles to the axis.
    - Bessler

    Springs were employed, but not as detractors suggested.
    - Bessler

    The machine's power was directly proportional to its diameter.
    - Bessler

    Weights may have been pierced in the middle and attached by connecting springs.
    - Acta Eridutorum, An Account of the Perpetuum Mobile of J. E. E. Orffyreus, 1715

   

    Weights were heard hitting the side of the wheel going down.
    - eyewitness accounts

    Machine made scratching noises, as if parts or poles moved over one another.
    - eyewitness accounts

    Weights may have been attached to movable or elastic arms on the periphery of the wheel.
    - Johann Christian Wolff, eyewitness account

    Weights may have landed on slightly warped boards.
    - Johann Christian Wolff, eyewitness account

    Weights were cylindrical.
    - Johann Christian Wolff, eyewitness account

    About 8 weights fell during each revolution of the wheel, which took about 3 seconds. (wheel diameter ~ 12 feet)
    - Joseph Fischer, eyewitness account

Grimer

Quote from: onepower on March 06, 2023, 08:16:50 PM

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This is a good website...https://besslerwheel.com/
The clues section is interesting...https://besslerwheel.com/clues.html

I think it's funny, a few hundred years later nobody has any better idea what the Primary Fields (Electric, Magnetic, Gravity) and inertia are than in Bessler's day. It's a black hole of knowledge few seem intelligent enough to crack.

AC
Black hole indeed.


You might be interested in the BesslerWheel thread by Senax entitled Terragravitic Induction[/font][/size][/b]
Who is she that cometh forth as the morning rising  -  Fair as the moon. Bright as the sun  -  Terrible as an army set in battle array.

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There's no doubt that Bessler built several wheels (Testimonies, Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz, one of the greatest scientists of his time).
Hasn't anyone figured it out yet? According to you!


Why would Bessler have given clues? I think the opposite, just truisms (the sky is blue, the earth is round).
Can gravity keep an object in motion, falling continuously without any known energy?
On paper, no, and that's to be expected. We still doubt we'll ever be able to ride a bike, we're not even on the draisienne yet.




onepower

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QuoteWhy would Bessler have given clues? I think the opposite, just truisms (the sky is blue, the earth is round).
Can gravity keep an object in motion, falling continuously without any known energy?
On paper, no, and that's to be expected. We still doubt we'll ever be able to ride a bike, we're not even on the draisienne yet.

It's an interesting story which still applies today...

Bessler was a genius, scholar, philosopher and a true craftsman similar to Leonardo Da Vinci. He invented all kinds of things and eventually found a way to harness the force of gravity with a machine. Then he tried to sell his gravity machine and the secret for a rather large sum of money. This is when the problems started.

Like many inventors today including FE inventors Bessler found almost all the wealthy people who could buy his machine were psychotic and would rather try to steal his work. Countless people could have bought the tech and helped humanity but they were psychotic and only wanted to help themselves. After being gaslighted and cheated on countless occasions Bessler finally lost faith in humanity and went into seclusion like many other geniuses. In fact, Leonardo da Vinci was also persecuted and received harsh treatment similar to Bessler.

We have heard this story countless times. Inventor gets cheated then stalked by psychopaths, goes into seclusion giving some hints as to how a technology works to help people then disappears. You see most wealthy people are psychopaths/predators, they don't buy tech they steal it and then try and take credit for it or bury it. It's always the same old sad story.

To answer your other question...
QuoteCan gravity keep an object in motion, falling continuously without any known energy?

Probably not, but your assessment is simplistic, subjective and has literally nothing to do with how the tech actually works.

Here's a clue,
Question to ChatGPT, does fusion from hydrogen to helium change the total mass present?.

QuoteAnswer, The process of fusion, where hydrogen nuclei (protons) combine to form helium nuclei, does indeed result in a change in the total mass present. This change is governed by Einstein's famous equation, E=mc^2, which relates energy (E) to mass (m) and the speed of light (c).
QuoteThere are several phenomena and processes that can alter the total mass of an object.

Here we have proof the mass of an object is not constant and under certain circumstances can change. Obviously Bessler did not use fusion however if the mass of an object can be altered in one case then it could be possible to alter it in other cases. In effect, if the mass changed then so does the force of gravity on it and the apparent weight. In effect, some process inside a closed box could make the box appear to get lighter or heavier. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out an object changing weight could perform work.

So the next time some amateur claims it's impossible to change the mass/weight of something inside a closed box all you have to say is that there is a fusion reaction taking place inside it. You see, real science can be fun...

AC



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Comment on peut dire autant de conneries au KM,
Visite le clos Lucé pour léonard de Vinci, et ça t'évitera d'être aussi présomptueux sur sa vie. Encore un qui sait tout.
Pour Bessler même combat en pire, plutôt tyrannique le philosophe, instruit surement, génie pas encore et probablement jamais.
Bref post sans intérêt comme pour le reste.


How can you say so much bullshit at KM,
Visit Clos Lucé for Leonardo da Vinci, and you won't be so presumptuous about his life. Another know-it-all.
For Bessler, it's the same battle, only worse: the philosopher is rather tyrannical, probably well-educated, but not yet a genius, and probably never will be.
In short, this post is as pointless as the rest.