DIY - Stable Redox Molecules

[citfta]

Charly,

I forgot to mention if you decide to use a capacitor and a PWM you need to put a diode between the output of the PWM and the capacitor.  Otherwise when the  PWM switches to the off side the capacitor may try to discharge back into the PWM.  Just connect a 1 to 3 amp diode with the anode end to the PWM and the cathode end to the cap.  This should charge the cap with the pulses from the PWM and not let the PWM discharge the cap between pulses.  Just ask if you need any more info about how to do this.

Carroll

[charly2]

Hi Broli, those modules are an affordable and good option due its flexibility to play with parameters, thanks.
Thanks Carroll I'll have your advices in mind; but I'm still thinking what's going on with this stuff, perhaps that is the "normal behavior" of the saline water.
Until now I developed "my own procedure" just from the documentation of 7 or 8 patents and some facts claimed on the asea site and doing some extrapolation on the parameters (concentration, mass, volts, amps, and time).
I will go back one step, I'll buy a couple of fresh original bottles and make a comparison (PPM, Ph, taste etc), I'll post some news later when done.
Thanks again for your help.

[jrspath]

For some interesting Information go to

http://www.chem1.com/CQ/

[charly2]

Thanks for the link jrspath.

I got 4 bottles from ebay for $120 shipping included, here two readings made:
Asea at 77°F (room temp): 2180 ppm, PH 7.5

My solution at same temp at 0.26%: 2185 ppm, PH 8.7
I used other parameters to make my own water this time similar in taste (asea has a really soft taste, more like saline).

I think the real problem is the ph.

Here is how I prepared my last batch:
1Lt tridestilled water: 0PPM, PH7.0
2.6gr NaCl
Mixed at room temp: 2160 PPM, PH 4.3 (PH went down)
Gap between electrodes: 3/8
Electrolized for 8 minutes at 16V dc, 3 Amps
Final solution: 2185 PPM, PH 8.7

I started the process and I check the solution every 2 minutes and at the first 2 minutes the PH was 8.1 (too high).

I don't remember the patent number where I did read the stability of the solution was affected for the PH and at 74 - 7.5 the solution could be stable for long time.

I opened one asea bottle 1 week ago and the same day I made my last batch. The same day the taste was almost identical, Now 1 week later the asea solution is the same taste, same ph and ppm, but my batch is changing in taste slowly as days run but keep same ppm and ph as the first day.

Any idea how to solve this little PH problem?, How to control the PH while electrolysis is running?.

[gravityblock]

Thanks for the link jrspath.

I got 4 bottles from ebay for $120 shipping included, here two readings made:
Asea at 77°F (room temp): 2180 ppm, PH 7.5

My solution at same temp at 0.26%: 2185 ppm, PH 8.7
I used other parameters to make my own water this time similar in taste (asea has a really soft taste, more like saline).

I think the real problem is the ph.

Here is how I prepared my last batch:
1Lt tridestilled water: 0PPM, PH7.0
2.6gr NaCl
Mixed at room temp: 2160 PPM, PH 4.3 (PH went down)
Gap between electrodes: 3/8
Electrolized for 8 minutes at 16V dc, 3 Amps
Final solution: 2185 PPM, PH 8.7

I started the process and I check the solution every 2 minutes and at the first 2 minutes the PH was 8.1 (too high).

I don't remember the patent number where I did read the stability of the solution was affected for the PH and at 74 - 7.5 the solution could be stable for long time.

I opened one asea bottle 1 week ago and the same day I made my last batch. The same day the taste was almost identical, Now 1 week later the asea solution is the same taste, same ph and ppm, but my batch is changing in taste slowly as days run but keep same ppm and ph as the first day.

Any idea how to solve this little PH problem?, How to control the PH while electrolysis is running?.

Adding a part of an effervescent multi-vitamin tablet to the water is an easy and inexpensive way to lower the pH value, according to Answers.com.  One tablet is sufficient for two gallons of water.  Instead of tablets, there is a powder form available also. Is there anything in this effervescent multi-vitamin tablet which could make the water unsafe for drinking when combined with the electrolysis process?  I don't know.

REDOXON INMUNE FUERTE TABS (EFFERVESCENT MULTIVITAMIN)

Effervescence-wiki

Keep us updated and thanks for your time and efforts.  How is the dog?  Hope he is still doing fine.

Thanks,

Gravock