PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS

[billmehess]

I understand your concern please review what I have claimed.

Voltage in = 0
Voltage out = 800 mv
No electrolytes
No consumables
No heat produced
No emissions
Yes the power (wattage) is low on my bench model
I will be begining today to add my upgrades to increase the power output.
I have never claimed that I am going to show a device that will run a car but a device that is producing a steady output of  energy with NO INPUT. This device is very scaleable.
Don't be concerned at this point about the low wattage reading I expected that. I have the solutions.
I am moving at a logical pace and my methodolgy is solid.
I will be in my shop all day and do not plan to even look at this site until tonight-to distracting.
Bill

To the comment above this one-  Thanks Willy Right you are!

Sorry repeat of above one of these days I will actually learn how to use this site

[JouleSeeker]

 Bill,  I sincerely wish you well in your scaling-up efforts.

The short essay below is based on a post in another forum back in March, and i recommend it still:

  I have been active in novel-energy research since the early 1980's beginning with my research in muon-catalyzed fusion.  See, for example, my paper in Nature 1986:
S.E. Jones, "Muon-Catalysed Fusion Revisited," (Invited article) Nature 321: 127-133 (1986).

   I share with many of you an overall goal of seeking for and promoting novel energy sources -- with scientific RIGOR including careful measurements -- without RANCOR or mocking.  I have found  this forum to provide a decent venue to promote rigor while -- for the most part-- avoiding mocking and rancor.  That's why I'm here.

I have at my home electronics bench an ATTEN 1062C digital storage oscilloscope, a DC power supply and a self-ranging multimeter, and a decent supply of transistors, resistors, inductors, capacitors, LED's, wire, etc.   At the University from which I retired after a career of physics research and teaching for over twenty years, I have access to more expensive scopes such as a Tektronix 3032 ( which will calculate MEAN power) as well as function generators, gaussmeters, etc.  I now live in the country, but I drive up to the university from time to time.   IOW, I have some pretty decent test equipment available -- and I would be glad to use to it to test YOUR novel-energy device, if you claim it meets the criteria below.

I would define a "novel energy" (NE) device that has merit for science and for society as follows -- here are my criteria at this time:

1.  Energy from a non-conventional source.  This excludes:  fossil fuels and biomass burning, solar (including wind and wave power), geothermal, nuclear fission or fusion (although I should not exclude cold fusion -- but see point 3).  It does not exclude:  earth's gravitational or magnetic fields, galactic magnetic fields.  Even currently unknown sources are allowable -- and sought.

2.  More power out than in (that is, efficiency n = Pout/Pin > 1), also known as "overunity" (OU).  This does not mean that principles of physics such as conservation of energy are (necessarily) violated.  It does imply a novel energy source.  Multiple methods of measurement are preferable, but the experimental method and the measurements must bear scrutiny (e.g., a peer-reviewed paper would be great!)

3.  The observation of OU must be repeatable.  A device must work every time specified conditions are met.  Successful replication must be demonstrated also.

4.  The power output must be capable of scaling up.  (Unlike extracting tiny currents from a magnet or iron pyrite, for example.) To be more than a curiosity, a scaled-up working device should produce at least tens of watts.

5.  I would prefer that results and inventions be freely available worldwide -- certainly not controlled by some big corporation or government entity.  A benefit to humanity is sought, not beaucoup-bucks for an elite few.

6.  If a theoretical model is claimed, the basis of that model needs to be empirically demonstrated. 

I welcome comments on the stated criteria, which I may amend as time goes on.

[e2matrix]

All good points Dr. Jones!  And to put it simply it has been my concern from the start that this at least has the potential to be real world useful while being affordable.  If it is does not have that potential than it is just a novelty to be further scrutinized to see if there is any real world use.  If not than it's just a science toy.  I had run some calulations similar to yours and was finding similar results.  However I think we just need to wait and see as Bill has stated he has plans for a 1 kilowatt unit.  At this point I'm not sure anyone, even Bill knows if that will be affordable and real world usable but we can hope with refinement it will be. 

    My main concern now is that Bill gets to show this and that what he is showing does not have any major errors in measurements so he will garner the positive attention with any public demonstrations.  I sense that is why many here will continue to ask questions, not out of disbelief in Bill or intending anything negative but to help in his quest to move forward.  I wish him all success but I do wish he could share here with at least you and maybe one or two other trusted people here the details of his concept before going public.  Doing so with a limited time NDA would be ideal IMO. 

[Thaelin]

Hi Bill:
   The way I see this, at 800mv, it should power a julethief circuit. That being enough to light up led's for lights for nothing. I cringe at what it costs me now just to run lights.  I am going to really try and be there. My job gave me a flat "NO" for the day off.
   Can you tell me what the event time will be? As long as I am back and in bed by 2PM, I can handle it. So before noon would be great to hear. Rock the house.

thay

[ramset]

SSOOOoooo W ,
You still doin the wednesday night poker games??

Took a bunch of the fellahs fishin today Huh? was gettin a bit noisy?

Still have me on ignore Huh?
Listen ,I didn't want to let the little fishy's go on the last fishin trip But
They were Staring at Me    .............
SORRY
Will you ever take me fishing again? or take me off ignore?

Well you're still a nice man Wilby ,I hope you win tonight.......

Chet