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Overunity Machines Forum



Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect

Started by Overunityguide, August 30, 2011, 04:59:41 PM

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gotoluc

Quote from: gyulasun on September 26, 2011, 06:16:55 PM
Well, the 4.4 Ohm coil made from 0.5mm OD copper wire has a wire length of about 49 meter.  This has a better chance to fill onto that core. Using the Mini Ring core calculator, for such sized toroid core 142 turns gives a full single layer coil directly on the surface from the 0.5mm OD wire and alltogether roughly 5 to 5.7 times more layers above the first one could give the 811 turns needed for the 7.5 Henry inductance.
( http://www.dl5swb.de/html/mini_ring_core_calculator.htm )

Gyula

Thanks Gyula,

that sounds about right now. All I remember is it took a long time to wind that one by hand :P

Thanks for sharing the calculator link

So what do you think about this Lenz delay?... do you think this could lead to OU?

Luc

gyulasun

Quote from: gotoluc on September 26, 2011, 10:58:50 PM
...
So what do you think about this Lenz delay?... do you think this could lead to OU?
...

Hi Luc,

I do not know the answer... 
I can only comment a few things. In case of the unloaded / loaded (lamp) tests, there is a few degree phase shift (10-15°) happening between the input voltage and current, while in the shorted / unshorted secondary tests the phase shift increases to 80-85° between the input voltage and current. The amplitudes of the current and voltage change but a very little or quasi nothing as you also noticed in the video. This is what the scopeshots show.
One problem is that the core material is probably a normal laminated core designed for the 50 / 60 Hz mains frequency and its behavior at 4-5 kHz range is rather questionable (thinking of core losses that may influence the whole transformer behavior, phase shifts etc). 
I assume this core 'problem' (at least I consider it as a negative factor) would not manifest too much in case of your toroidal core with the 7.5H coil on it, maybe it would be worth testing it at even higher frequencies. Then we shall see... though it might be still unprobable I can give you a correct answer to your above question...

Gyula

Overunityguide

Quote from: gotoluc on September 26, 2011, 01:08:17 PM
First scope shot is MOT with no Load on Secondary
Second scope shot is MOT with Neon Bulb Load on Secondary
Third scope shot is MOT with Secondary Shorted
Link to video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne-wJqZVDvs

@gotoluc
That is Great. 8.82V on No Load conditions and 9.45V while Shorting...

Keep up the good work.

With Kind Regards, Overunityguide

Transformer Part 2, the Delayed Lenz Effect with Scope Shots:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YiRV1SUsgc

ramset

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Thanks Grandma

nilrehob

Quote from: CRANKYpants on September 14, 2011, 08:29:34 AM
Bi-filar wound series connected generator coils increase coil capacitance by 200% or more...

Hi Thane,

Are you sure about this?
Some time ago I did a comparison by using a newly bought inductance-meter and i couldn't see any difference.
Then i tried to do a calculation on the difference on the stored electric energy within a coil, and my conclusion was that a normally wound coil would store more electric energy because of its relation to the square of the voltage and since the voltage difference between the layers are linear in a normal coil and constant in a bifilar coil?
Its obvious that I have to redo some testing and thinking on this stuff.

Maybe You could elaborate on this?

/Hob