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Overunity Machines Forum



Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect

Started by Overunityguide, August 30, 2011, 04:59:41 PM

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Overunityguide

Quote from: Poit on September 05, 2011, 02:37:41 AM
75watts to run the generator

the led's probably consume 2 watts...

ok so its negative lenz effect, so it now consumes 72 watts or so.... but is the effect the same when you put a larger load on it? what happens if you put something that requires say 80watts? is it going to be 70watts in and 80watts out?

Ok, there we go again... Please read the previous posts! I have mentioned it for about twenty times by now... it is showing only proof of principle...

In one of my previous posts I also describe that the motor which I am using right now is a bit overkill. Actually my motor is rated at maximum 370 Watts. (so much too powerfull for this setup) And will consume much power only to run idle.

So if you have read all previous posts, Please proceed and see my next video about this subject:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGstOJ4NDQQ
In which I describe the differences between shorting and loading the generator coil.

With Kind Regards, Overunityguide

teslaalset

Quote from: kEhYo77 on September 05, 2011, 01:53:09 AM
One has to remember that when full setup of coils would be implemented the drag will be much less and power required
to drive the rotor as well. All that he has to do is to place ODD number of those HV coils around the EVEN number of magnets rotor...

You're missing the point I was trying to make here:
No coils present : power consumption 66Watts
One coil present, no load: power consumption 75 Watt.
So, the presents of each coil will add 9 Watts of extra losses without delivering extra output.
If you then load one coil with e.g. a LED lamp, like in this experiment, there is a approx. 2 Watt reduction of the 9 Watts.
So, overall, each coil, while delivering output, still has a 7 Watt extra loss.
Adding N extra coils will add 7 x N Watt extra loss.

The whole idea of obtaining OU with similar setups will only fly if the additional lossed caused by the generator coils will be less than the load they deliver.

In the setup of Overunityguide the coil seems to have a solid core. Replacing this by e.g. isolated rods with a small diameter will help a lot in getting the eddy currents reduced.
But, since in this example a coil with many windings is used, there will always be rather large ohmic losses in the generator coil as well. In this demo : R =384.5 Ohm !

Poit

Quote from: teslaalset on September 05, 2011, 03:53:09 AM
You're missing the point I was trying to make here:
No coils present : power consumption 66Watts
One coil present, no load: power consumption 75 Watt.
So, the presents of each coil will add 9 Watts of extra losses without delivering extra output.
If you then load one coil with e.g. a LED lamp, like in this experiment, there is a approx. 2 Watt reduction of the 9 Watts.
So, overall, each coil, while delivering output, still has a 7 Watt extra loss.
Adding N extra coils will add 7 x N Watt extra loss.

Makes sense :)

@Overunityguide sorry mate, i read your posts. Keep up the good work

Overunityguide

Quote from: teslaalset on September 05, 2011, 03:53:09 AM
You're missing the point I was trying to make here:
No coils present : power consumption 66Watts
One coil present, no load: power consumption 75 Watt.
So, the presents of each coil will add 9 Watts of extra losses without delivering extra output.
If you then load one coil with e.g. a LED lamp, like in this experiment, there is a approx. 2 Watt reduction of the 9 Watts.
So, overall, each coil, while delivering output, still has a 7 Watt extra loss.
Adding N extra coils will add 7 x N Watt extra loss.

@teslaalset,

(Please don't take it personal...)

I think that you still haven't read all previous posts. I am saying this because, also in one of my other previous posts, I am telling everyone that my generator setup for now is one of the most Inefficient and that there can be a lot improved in this setup.

First, you can think of replacing my iron bolt core with ferrites. Secondly designing a more like Thane C Heins Mechenical Generator Coil Dual Rotor setup and so on.

Kind Regards, Overunityguide
Please see my new Video about the Difference Between Shorting and Loading:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGstOJ4NDQQ

kEhYo77

@teslaalset

I know what You are getting at with those calculation but adding a full set of coils will reduce total amount of drag significantly.
And then you can not do simple mutliplication of the friction/drag like that for all the coils because balancing magnetic forces does the trick (Muller).
On a side note here, I think that You know that this setup can be converted to RotoVerter resonant motor and then the same 3000 RPM
can be achieved using only few Watts using tuned caps.