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[MileHigh]

Gwandau:

I watched he Thrive movie and I was not too impressed.  It's just another sales pitch.  I mean that in a very generic sense, just like you can argue that various religions and various political systems and social contracts are just another sales pitch.

For getting a more complete sense of this subject, something that you are passionate about, then you should also look at opposing views.  Then you can weigh both sides in your mind.

I did the Google search "Thrive movie critique" and from looking at the search results I can see that there are lots of other resources worth reading.  If you don't do that search and spend a few hours reading from the other side then you are missing an opportunity to do yourself a great service.

MileHigh

[Gwandau]

MileHigh,

you really are a mystery to me.

Unlike others in this thread, I still refuse to place you in the troll division, since you actually are reasoning logically from your point of view.
And I refuse to regard you as a man without a heart.

But where on earth do you come from?  (and I don't mean geografically)
I cannot believe that you have managed to blindfold yourself against the simpleness in the message in the movie "Thrive".

Where are your heart and spirit?

Are you maybe a person totally lacking any spiritual experiences, only believeing what is physically confirmed by scientifically approved means?
If that is the case, I can only say that I am very sorry for you, since you are totally missing a great part of the magic of being alive.

Where are your communication with the whole?  Or do you actually believe that life is a freak accident in a universe mostly filled with dead matter?
Do you really believe that there even is such a thing as dead matter? What makes you believe that?

Have you never shed a single tear for mother earth and her suffering billions?
What does your heart tell you when you look around at all the misery and organized crime against humanity, openly executed by our governments?

Do you actually believe in the goodwill of the authorities in your government?
Do you actually believe that western governments are engaging into wars to make life better for the people in those countries?
Do you actually stand up behind our monetary system? Believing it to be a fair game?

MileHigh, I am stunned.

Gwandau

[MileHigh]

Gwandau:

You are oversimplifying and asking loaded questions in an attempt to put words in my mouth.  You seem to be forgetting the concepts of plurality of thought and tolerance.  All that I asked you to do was do a search to open your mind.  You find the movie enlightening and I am just asking you to enlighten yourself even more.

From that search, a link comes up from the Thrive website itself:

http://www.thrivemovement.com/john-robbins-critique-of-thrive-movie-humanity-and-sanity

Here is a quote from the beginning of the statement:

Humanity and Sanity

Standing for a Thriving World

(and challenging the Movie Thrive)

By John Robbins

Thrive is the name of a richly produced and controversial film that asks, and attempts to answer, some of the deepest questions about the nature of the human condition and what is thwarting our chances to prosper. Elaborately funded, with appealing imagery and beautiful music, it features interviews with many leading progressive voices. And yet ten of these leaders have taken the highly unusual step of signing a statement formally disassociating ourselves from the film.


Why have Amy Goodman, Deepak Chopra, Paul Hawken, Edgar Mitchell, Vandana Shiva, John Perkins, Elisabet Sahtouris, Duane Elgin and Adam Trombly, as well as yours truly, gone to the trouble of signing our names to this public statement?

“We are a group of people who were interviewed for and appear in the movie Thrive, and who hereby publicly disassociate ourselves from the film.

Thrive is a very different film from what we were led to expect when we agreed to be interviewed. We are dismayed that we were not given a chance to know its content until the time of its public release. We are equally dismayed that our participation is being used to give credibility to ideas and agendas that we see as dangerously misguided.


We stand by what each of us said when we were interviewed. But we have grave disagreements with some of the film’s content and feel the need to make this public statement to avoid the appearance that our presence in the film constitutes any kind of endorsement.”


I have joined the other signers of this statement, even though there are aspects of the film that I find beautiful and inspiring, and even though the makers of the film, Foster and Kimberly Gamble, are old friends.


In Thrive, the Gambles have attempted to address some of the crucial challenges of our times. I appreciate their idealism, their commitment, and their passion. And I agree with them about some things they state in the movie and on their website --- such as that the political system is depraved, the Federal Reserve has been used to consolidate economic power, fiat currency tends to produce a corrupt financial system that depends on ever increasing debt, the tax system is unfair, and enormously powerful economic interests often collude with one another to deceive and defraud the public. I stand with them as they promote the labeling of genetically engineered foods and in their desire to see our nation cease spending enormous sums on war. I appreciate that they support local and organic agriculture, their passion for credit unions and local banking, and their opposition to governmental invasion of privacy. They recommend many action steps that I support.


But I do not agree with some of the core conclusions they draw. Nor do the other signers of the statement of disassociation from Thrive. Duane Elgin, one of the signers, says: "Thrive is idealistic, naive, narrow, shallow, and focuses attention away from more productive areas of engagement."

MileHigh

[tagor]

look at the pdf

[chessnyt]

Even the person quoted as disassociating himself from the film still stands behind many of the points made in the film.  I have highlighted these key points with bold print below:

"In Thrive, the Gambles have attempted to address some of the crucial challenges of our times. I appreciate their idealism, their commitment, and their passion. And I agree with them about some things they state in the movie and on their website --- such as that the political system is depraved, the Federal Reserve has been used to consolidate economic power, fiat currency tends to produce a corrupt financial system that depends on ever increasing debt, the tax system is unfair, and enormously powerful economic interests often collude with one another to deceive and defraud the public. I stand with them as they promote the labeling of genetically engineered foods and in their desire to see our nation cease spending enormous sums on war. I appreciate that they support local and organic agriculture, their passion for credit unions and local banking, and their opposition to governmental invasion of privacy. They recommend many action steps that I support."

So as you can see above, the key points of the film are truly endorsed even by those who are "disassociating" themselves from the movie.
I would personally recommend the following author and financial insider:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcw2Xz9fxIY

As you can see, Steven Sadleir gives you a great summary of what his book is about that he is promoting on YouTube, however, even if you do not read the book, I HIGHLY (MILEHIGHLY) recommend viewing his series of videos explaining some of what is elaborated on in his book. 

If you really want to find the truth, Mr. Sadleir gives it to you but if you want to believe in fairy tales and that the whole world is Disneyland and nothing more, I would stay away from the above mentioned link.  I would not wish to awaken those who are comfortably asleep.


Regards,

Chess