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FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

Started by chessnyt, September 16, 2011, 06:57:24 PM

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The new poll  starting 2-4-2012:  LENR technology

a) will soon lead to the end of the fossil fuel era and become the new standard.
b) will compete with fossil fuels for decades to come eventually replacing them.
c) will not only phase out fossil fuels but will also lead to the trials of the current corrupt powers in charge.
d) will lead to all of the above.

WilbyInebriated

Quote from: MileHigh on July 10, 2012, 12:03:41 PM
Get yourself some help.
LMFAO!!!  another red herring!

::) you don't even realize you are behaving in the same manner that you accuse rosemary of behaving... ::)

i'm going to let you have the last post so you can feel like you have won something... so hurry up with your next logical fallacy so i can laugh and go fishing with a smile.
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chessnyt

@MileHigh:
To form any intelligent opinion, you need to know what the facts are yet you have not read a single scientific research paper on LENR so therefore you can not consider all the relevent facts.  It's like saying that the sun doesn't exist as you walk around with a blindfold on lest you allow sunlight to enter your eyes.     
Quote from: MileHigh on July 10, 2012, 04:28:28 AM
You are just a blind believer fan boy and that lowers your credibility so that you are barely treading water.
You have got to be kidding, right?  Who is blind (and on purpose no doubt) and who is credible?  You claim to have credibility and you will not even look at the evidence?  Now I know you're a nut job.
Quote from: MileHigh on July 10, 2012, 04:28:28 AM
I haven't read a single scientific research paper on LENR.
Whether you read the scientific research papers or not (whether you take off the blindfold or not), the proof still exists.

Whether you visit the ongoing successful demonstration in progress at MIT or not, it is real.

You accuse Rossi of running a scam but when confronted, you can't name ANY victims and you can't have a scam without victims as it is a contradiction in terms.
Quote from: MileHigh on July 10, 2012, 04:28:28 AM
I don't have to point out any victims, and you in fact know that I can't point out any victims
So then your scam accusation is false.  You defame Rossi's character by false accusation and admit it NOW yet you refuse to retract the false scam allegation?  You're a real piece of work.
Quote from: MileHigh on July 10, 2012, 04:28:28 AM
You are also indulging in propaganda when you state that the opinion of a well respected NASA scientist is "proof."
I did not say that.  That is a HUGE LIE and another example of how you spread misinformation.  Now here's what I actually said:

"You try to play both sides of the issue and it's obvious you don't as you attack proof presented by a well respected NASA scientist." 

Notice I said "...proof presented by a well respected NASA scientist."  I did not say his statement was proof like you falsely claim above.  If the readers care to go back a little further, they can even see this previous quote of mine:

"...because unlike your mere opinion with the lesser qualifications in your background to accompany it, Dr. Dennis Bushnell (Chief Scientist of NASA Langley Research Center) backs up his statements with real FACTS (experimental evidence) in support of his statement to The U.S. Department of Energy.  Spin as many times as you want to, but your opinion will never surpass a more qualified statement and you know it."

So as the people in this forum can clearly see, you are a bold faced liar spreading yet more disinformation, Milelow.  You need to come up for air and soon.


Chess

MileHigh

Chess:

I admitted that I haven't read any scientific papers but I certainly have been following the story for a long time.

I asked you how many scientific papers on LENR research that you yourself have read, and you avoided the question.  So right now I am assuming that we are on a level playing field and you have read zero papers yourself.  So therefore you can not consider all the relevant facts.   You must be a nut job too if we assume that you have not read a single paper yet you are endorsing this alleged technology.

QuoteYou accuse Rossi of running a scam but when confronted, you can't name ANY victims and you can't have a scam without victims as it is a contradiction in terms.

I feels like you were born just yesterday sometimes.  Many companies in the realm of "free energy" never produce anything but they continue to keep "running" and collecting paychecks.  Steorn comes to mind right away.  Duh!  Doh!

QuoteNotice I said "...proof presented by a well respected NASA scientist."  I did not say his statement was proof like you falsely claim above.

That was just an honest mistake on my part.

QuoteSo as the people in this forum can clearly see, you are a bold faced liar spreading yet more disinformation, Milelow

You are hopelessly trapped in a spin cycle.

I am going to take a trip to PESN and do some copying and make a follow-up posting in case there are readers here that never visit Sterling's nook on the web.

MileHigh




MileHigh

A taste of PESN comments about Rossi:

QuoteJohn Smith 1882
There's no approx. date.  Rossi will never show anything conclusive regarding his work.  This should be evident by now... if you don't believe me just go back and look at the timelines of the e-cat and other Rossi projects. 
 
I'm especially skeptical of someone who is cheer-leading a certain point of view.  The facts should stand on their own. 
 
Hank, I think it would be a great boon to the community if you could get Rossi to publish some actual data or allow third party testing.

Quotedfnj
I agree with you Ivan.  Everytime I've asked for hard data against a graph showing a control measurement the cultist attack me saying I am making an ad hominem attack against Rossi.  Also, when pressed, Rossi stated just buy one E-Cat for $1.5 million and you publish all the data you want.  This is exactly what scammers do.   The conversation is never about the data but a feigned character attacks.  The conversation is always about subjective views, opinions, and spin.  The conversation is never objective, never data driven, never about experimental setup and measurement techniques. 
 
So anyone with even a basic shred of scientific understanding must be a little skeptical about the Rossi conversations so far.  I have nothing against Rossi.  I would love for him to become rich beyond his wildest dreams living in an island villa surrounding by nubile nymphs serving his every need.  In the mean time, big-oil is crushing the world into slavery.  It would be nice if some rigorous scientific results were published just to drive the oil speculators into the ground and give some relief to the workers of the World!!!!

QuoteMark Dancy
I admire your faith Hank but it is only exceeded by ignorance. 
1. No test data has vet been produced that stood up to any critical analysis, especially the methodology. The over whelming majority of scientists who have reviewed the procedures find they are floored. So why is the University distancing themselves as well. Please provide one lot of data to this forum that you feel supports Rossi's device. If not then go find it for us please. 
2. Agree we don't have the data. Rossi has lied before even Sterling called him a liar. Can you ask him what measures he is taking to clean up the multi million dollar environmental damage he created in one of his other failed ventures or is that forgiven? 
3.Kindly get some evidence his production facility exists...good luck with that. 
many others have asked you questions Hank and you fail to respond because you know the truth you just want to believe so much it has blinded you. Sterling to his credit over the years is happy to eventually dig down and find the truth, or if presented with it accepts it.

QuoteMark Dancy
i only have one question hank. Why does Rossi not allow simple widely accepted, inexpensive tests to measure energy input and heat output? I and all other skeptics would be silenced immediately and main stream science and industry would be all over this. 
I respect your right to publish commentary but get back to basics and ask you the real burning question why he fails to agree to what any other inventor would do. 
Jim Dunn has made an excellent suggestion for a test, why not put that to Rossi. 
 
As we always say "Show me the Data" but there is a condition, data that can be believed and does not raise more questions than it answers because of questionable methodology. 
Kind Regards as always

WilbyInebriated

troll on milelow... troll on...


eastbound and down he's loaded up and trolling
he's gonna spin what they say can't be spun
he's gotta a long way to go and a short time to get there
he's eastbound, just watch ol' milelow troll
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