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FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

Started by chessnyt, September 16, 2011, 06:57:24 PM

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The new poll  starting 2-4-2012:  LENR technology

a) will soon lead to the end of the fossil fuel era and become the new standard.
b) will compete with fossil fuels for decades to come eventually replacing them.
c) will not only phase out fossil fuels but will also lead to the trials of the current corrupt powers in charge.
d) will lead to all of the above.

chessnyt

Quote from: Maciej41 on April 07, 2012, 08:20:04 PM
All Your explanation are always the same, no exact datas, no show device for anybody eager to prove it.
It is in manner as politicians do.
Sleep well. :-*
The truth is on my side as a lie can only survive in the absence of it just as darkness can only prevail in the absence of light.  Trying to slant the truth is always a risky endeavor that the facts will always dispel.

Don't worry.  You still have time to sell your Chevron stocks before the media has no choice but mention this revolutionary new energy reality.

I know what you're trying to do here and you are outgunned my friend.  You are no match for the truth.  Better luck next time  8)

Chess

Maciej41

Nearly the same speaches as this here: http://nspap.livejournal.com/39398.html
Stop thinking about anything as only to collect food and wood.
In a few months this will be most important thing for all proud yet Americans.
Bread and butter will be for most a dream.l only.
www.apgp.salon24.pl

MileHigh

I read through the document and I was pretty familiar with the material.  What it clearly does is catch Rossi in a big lie.  He makes many claims about a factory in the USA and when he is visited by a person from the Department of Radiological Health in Miami he then says that there is no factory in the USA.

This is an absolute fact, Rossi's own words.  I can't understand how you guys that are supporters can simply brush this off.  The key guy was caught in a huge lie.  If he can lie about something as big as a factory that is supposed to be stress testing 300 E-Cats then he can lie about anything.  He is clearly tarnished in that report by his own words, not by anybody else's words.

Plus there were references to concerns about radiation issues in Italy and when he visited by a federal agent in Florida he claims there is no radiation.  That could bite him in the ass in the long run.  You don't lie to the Feds.

From experience, I am not really surprised how dismissive some of you are about this stuff.

I am willing to bet you there are not another 13 one-megawatt plants being built either.  I have no facts one way or the other, it's just my gut feel.

QuoteCalifornia just put their big San Onofre nuclear power plant on indefinite shutdown status.  That's what provides power to
roughly 5 million people (1.4 million homes) in Los Angeles.  Maybe Rossi needs to get hold of Gerry Brown (Governor) to see if they can help each other out.

Even if Rossi is legitimate, we are a long way off from a seeing a major power plant being built using this technology.  It would sure be nice if it all was true.

Right now my best guess is that the only business footprint that Rossi has in Florida is the condo that he lives in.  That means that the "American operation" is a room with a desk, a computer, some filing cabinets, and a fax machine.

MileHigh

MileHigh

Gwandau:

Thanks for the links and the documents.  I will try to look at them.

Chess:

QuoteThe scam you accuse Andrea Rossi of running is completely hypothetical too so why is it okay for you to use hypotheticals without ANY proof whatsoever and others are held to a higher standard?

I suppose because I find it really distasteful to see a person or corporation commit fraud and steal money from good people.  You notice that sentence is generic, I am not talking about any specific person.  If you have followed the story of free energy you will know that there are scammers that have been convicted and been sent to jail.  Then there are people that have followings that are simply pedaling snake oil.

In that context and in the spirit of healthy debate we should all be able to express our opinions.  I don't have absolute proof that Rossi is a scammer, but by the same token I don't have any independently verified third-party proof that he has what he claims he has.  At the same time I am fully aware, as all of you should be aware, that if Rossi wanted to facilitate independent third-party testing he has had ample opportunity to do so but he hasn't.  That makes me highly suspicions, just like the lying about a factory in Florida makes me highly suspicious.

If you are going to go public with the "next big thing" you are going to be subject to scrutiny.  It's actually healthy and good to let this happen.  If the guy is real then that fact will percolate to the top.

MileHigh

lumen

It's interesting how people put words in Rossi's mouth that he never said. So let me correct the "no plant in the US lie" for those who were not listening!
Rossi said "there is CURRENTLY yes that's CURRENTLY no PRODUCTION yes that's PRODUCTION in the US. He did not say there was no plant being built, He did not say they are not running samples for testing, He did not say! what he said was CURRENTLY all production is overseas.
Very simple for those who wish to believe Rossi is a fraud (and cannot read) to interpret to something negative.

Rossi picks his words carefully and you can see why he must.