FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

[chessnyt]

1. Adolf Hitler eventually comitted suicide, but i don't trust it really.
Same said my Grandpa, which was a prisoner of KL Buchenwald.
They had a technical possibility to fly arround the World, so why not?
2. Please let us know, how much of this miraculuos fuel of Nickel nano powder
had to be refilled after this happy 5.5 H?
Todays ordinary coal ovens can burn longer after 1 loading of coal, even to 72 H,
so Freund, go to circus better than.

@Arius:
Hitler is gone and is no longer in power.  Deny this if you wish but this is fact.  You need to show more tolerance for people of different ethnic backgrounds.  Hatred will ALWAYS lead to murder.  That is why it is important to learn to live peaceably with others so that you will not waste your life trying to destroy the world but rather help make it a better place working beside others who may be different from you.

Coal pollutes the air we breath and will not burn for 6 months before more has to be introduced.  Nickel is also more abundant in supply than coal as well.  It is I who wishes you would awake from your slumber as climate change is for real.


Regards,

Chess

[neptune]

@Chessynt . To be honest , Rossi has given us little to be exited about at this stage . He claims to have sold the device to a customer who wishes to remain secret . In a vital test his device only outputs 50% of the claimed power . He may or may not have a working device , but yesterday seems to be the non-event of the year . I just hope he is a better engineer than he is a salesman . Somehow this did not feel like a world changing
event . Even if he is genuine , the whole scene seems to have been designed to give his critics a field day .

[chessnyt]

@Chessynt . To be honest , Rossi has given us little to be exited about at this stage . He claims to have sold the device to a customer who wishes to remain secret . In a vital test his device only outputs 50% of the claimed power . He may or may not have a working device , but yesterday seems to be the non-event of the year . I just hope he is a better engineer than he is a salesman . Somehow this did not feel like a world changing
event . Even if he is genuine , the whole scene seems to have been designed to give his critics a field day .

@Neptune:
Well, his critics said they would have been satisfied that his technology was for real if he would have let it run longer in self sustain mode at his last testing event.  He let it run longer and he even produced more significant energy output IN SELF-SUSTAIN MODE! 470kw is a serious and viable display of energy output by any scientific standards.

The customer is secret?  They have a right to be.  Maybe they don't want to risk retribution (economically blackballed or otherwise) for bringing something that easily has the potential to make the richest people in this country broke! 


Regards,

Chess   

[nul-points]

greetings chessnyt & neptune (long time no see!)

this is a situation like the 'particle/wave' duality of light - there is truth in both your points of view, however incompatible they may appear!


a)   if you follow the implications from criticisms of Rossi's  claims for a new technology, then the only logical conclusion is that this has to be a scam

but there is no 'scam' logic here - this is not being played out in 'secluded' venues where a scammer can fool a sucker into parting with their money and move on without attracting too much attention and killing the market

neither is it the often-seen 'YOUTOOB' mentality of showing-off some 'impossible' achievement, either for glory or kicks, where there is no possibility for checking the validity of the presentation and/or insufficient data to enable people to replicate (obviously in this case Rossi is keeping some info as 'trade secret' from general release - but he is co-operating with some research facilities)


b)  equally, from the other point of view, Rossi appears to be trying to 'run before he can walk' in that he's attempting to sell something which is not yet fully-reliable (for whatever reason) and before the science behind the new technology has been generally recognised and validated

now it may be that, due to the controversial nature of the claims for this new technology, research facilities are unable to get funding to investigate it by using the established channels of grant sources - and so it's possible that Rossi is having to provide some funding himself, hence needing to sell some product (& his house?) first


in all these demos, whilst i'm sure Rossi is pleased to get all the general publicity he can, his priority will be to convince any potential customers & scientists present at the demos of the veracity of his claims

the onus is on those people present to satisfy themselves that there is no 'trickery' - the alternative science 'journalism' representatives present will do the best they can to capture & disseminate solid information, but ultimately they are not the main focus of Rossi's efforts in these demos

Rossi's patents do not give sufficient info to enable a full working replication - so, if the technology is valid, then he is obviously keeping some details back as trade secrets

Therefore, Rossi's patents cannot prevent other companies from releasing a similar product if they can 'guess' the missing  critical info themselves and make sufficient changes to the patented areas

there may not have been much 'mainstream' acknowledgement, in public, of Rossi's work - but you can bet that there will be a lot of very interested 'serious' players out there, trying to reverse-engineer what has been revealed so far, to prove for themselves if this is a valid technology and if so, to enable them to 'jump the gun'

interesting times - at the moment my money is still on Rossi !

np


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

[onthecuttingedge2005]

greetings chessnyt & neptune (long time no see!)

this is a situation like the 'particle/wave' duality of light - there is truth in both your points of view, however incompatible they may appear!


a)   if you follow the implications from criticisms of Rossi's  claims for a new technology, then the only logical conclusion is that this has to be a scam

but there is no 'scam' logic here - this is not being played out in 'secluded' venues where a scammer can fool a sucker into parting with their money and move on without attracting too much attention and killing the market

neither is it the often-seen 'YOUTOOB' mentality of showing-off some 'impossible' achievement, either for glory or kicks, where there is no possibility for checking the validity of the presentation and/or insufficient data to enable people to replicate (obviously in this case Rossi is keeping some info as 'trade secret' from general release - but he is co-operating with some research facilities)


b)  equally, from the other point of view, Rossi appears to be trying to 'run before he can walk' in that he's attempting to sell something which is not yet fully-reliable (for whatever reason) and before the science behind the new technology has been generally recognised and validated

now it may be that, due to the controversial nature of the claims for this new technology, research facilities are unable to get funding to investigate it by using the established channels of grant sources - and so it's possible that Rossi is having to provide some funding himself, hence needing to sell some product (& his house?) first


in all these demos, whilst i'm sure Rossi is pleased to get all the general publicity he can, his priority will be to convince any potential customers & scientists present at the demos of the veracity of his claims

the onus is on those people present to satisfy themselves that there is no 'trickery' - the alternative science 'journalism' representatives present will do the best they can to capture & disseminate solid information, but ultimately they are not the main focus of Rossi's efforts in these demos

Rossi's patents do not give sufficient info to enable a full working replication - so, if the technology is valid, then he is obviously keeping some details back as trade secrets

Therefore, Rossi's patents cannot prevent other companies from releasing a similar product if they can 'guess' the missing  critical info themselves and make sufficient changes to the patented areas

there may not have been much 'mainstream' acknowledgement, in public, of Rossi's work - but you can bet that there will be a lot of very interested 'serious' players out there, trying to reverse-engineer what has been revealed so far, to prove for themselves if this is a valid technology and if so, to enable them to 'jump the gun'

interesting times - at the moment my money is still on Rossi !

np


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

Where is the Nobel prize?