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FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

Started by chessnyt, September 16, 2011, 06:57:24 PM

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The new poll  starting 2-4-2012:  LENR technology

a) will soon lead to the end of the fossil fuel era and become the new standard.
b) will compete with fossil fuels for decades to come eventually replacing them.
c) will not only phase out fossil fuels but will also lead to the trials of the current corrupt powers in charge.
d) will lead to all of the above.

maw2432

Ironshell,
Thanks for the link to the interview.   
Many things explained and many on going changes.   
Production of home water/heater units will be in Florida.  Goal to have units cost $500.    Target for fall product release. 
I am confused about implimentation.  Rossi said units would attach to existing home units.   I wonder if such modifications would break warranty on exisiting units.  No clear implimenation explained for those with electric water heater vs. gas heater.   (It may be better to just install a whole new unit with warranty for entire unit.)
Problems still exist for units to produce electricity.   Only stable to 120 degrees C.   
Hydrogen tanks no longer needed for small home units.   
It would be great to have a transcript of the interview. 
Bill



neptune

Hi Rosemary and all . I got the impression that the Ecat would be installed in parallel with your existing heater . The only reason to do this would be if you had a 10 Kw Ecat , and it would not quite manage to heat your home in the coldest weather . If we used the Ecat to boil seawater to remove the salt and recover gold and other substances , the most valuable product could well turn out to be the resultant fresh water .
          I saw an old film once , where two guys robbed a bank . They stole about 20 ingots of gold . They then set off across the desert to escape . Their car broke down , and they decided to continue on foot . Each guy was carrying a back pack containing 10 gold bars , and two bottles of water . By day two , one of the guys ran out of water . The other guy sold him a bottle for five gold bars , which of course he had to then carry . I can not remember how it went after that , but in the final scene we see two skeletons glinting in the setting desert sun ... Gold only has value whilst we have civilisation , and that is not guaranteed .


CuriousChris


I wont say I am convinced that Rossi is not a scammer. But I am 90% there.

In fact I would have placed money on him being a scammer until I read and watched the videos at the following link. Please continue reading and return to the link to make your own mind up.
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/RossiECat/Failure-of-Rossis-Energy-Catalyzer-Caught-on-Video.shtml

I came away from it thinking his calculations were wrong, something didn't add up. After meticulously checking his figures, I am happy to report in my opinion the figures are correct. I got slightly different figures but only slightly because I used a different heat of vaporisation (sourced from wikipedia).

After watching the video's twice AND doing the calculations twice using two different methods I came away thinking the following...

A/ The article is unfair, Rossi repeatedly stated  most of the steam was too hot to be visible (unlike that rising from a kettle and condensing in the cool air around it) He also stated it was quite warm  in the room, >30 degrees c (86f).
B/ his figures add up and unless he is deliberately scamming as I don't believe he is unwittingly making a mistake, then he has successfully solved LENR (Incredible :D)

Now his business practices may be odd but this Doubting Thomas is changing his spots.

I wish Dick Smith the best of luck. As an Australian who is very familiar with Dick Smith I can assure you he will HAPPILY write the cheque. He is probably Australia's most well known philanthropist and to prove a viable low cost alternative energy source would give him immense pleasure.

CC

P.S. Of course if Rossi is proven correct and all energy woes are solved for the next century at least the search for OU will continue. but I must say I for one will consider it a luxury rather than an imperative :)

tinu

Quote from: CuriousChris on January 16, 2012, 07:20:32 AM
I wont say I am convinced that Rossi is not a scammer. But I am 90% there.
...

After watching the video's twice AND doing the calculations twice using two different methods I came away thinking the following...

A/ The article is unfair, Rossi repeatedly stated  most of the steam was too hot to be visible (unlike that rising from a kettle and condensing in the cool air around it) He also stated it was quite warm  in the room, >30 degrees c (86f).
B/ his figures add up and unless he is deliberately scamming as I don't believe he is unwittingly making a mistake, then he has successfully solved LENR (Incredible :D )
...


Now that’s disturbing indeed!!!
I could not see a clear measurement of 7kg/h for the water but that’s something I can live with. If Rossi said that, so be it. However, that amount of water turned into dry steam would be over 3 liters per second and that’s a lot! Follow the calculation of steam speed for the following cases:
Hose (internal diameter)     Area (square cm)             Volume            Steam speed
1 inch (2.54cm)                        5.1cm2                         3000cm3/s       588cm/s = 21km/h       
3/4 inch (1.91cm)                     2.9cm2                         3000cm3/s       1034cm/s= 37km/h     
1/2 inch (1.27cm)                     1.3cm2                         3000cm3/s       2307cm/s= 83km/h

To me, that hose looks like a 1/2 inch one but even 21km/h (1 inch hose) is a respectable speed that should be felt/heard etc . I may be wrong and maybe I’ve made some mistakes in the above calculations.
Any thoughts?
Best regards,
Tinu