FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

[e2matrix]

Thanks for the update chessnyt.  Sounds like a win-win deal.  It's either free energy or pizza and beer. 

[gravityblock]

Are gamma absorb by lead then heated lead is used by contact to heat water or water is heated by generated gamma before they reach the protective lead ? Are Gamma a good way to heat water directly? Lead will hardly stop 100% of the gamma, there should be some passing through, then location, operation, maintenance and disposal of this reactor will not be easily authorized and the e-cat will have a hard time to be certified in the US especially if it is to be use in everyone homes, and possibly the home operator may need an operating license to operate this small "reactor", nothing simple for the next 16 months.

This is not the case with the e-Cat, since the gamma rays released are made of heavy particles, which do not acquire a high enough velocity and momentum to pass through lead.  The gamma rays released are low level, thus they do not have the momentum to penetrate the lead.  It's like a bowling ball hitting a wall at 1 mph (low level) as compared to a marble hitting a wall at 1000 mph (high level).  The marble will penetrate the wall, while the bowling ball will not (even if the bowling ball and the marble was given the exact same impulse).  For example, you can compare how fast two cannonballs start to fly after you launch them out of the same cannon.  According to Newton’s laws of motion, a given impulse will give rise to a velocity inversely proportional to the mass.  So if one cannonball comes out twice as fast as the other, it has half the mass, whether you do the experiment at the surface of Earth or in space. 

High level gamma rays which make up the electromagnetic spectrum will acquire a high velocity and momentum to easily penetrate through lead.  Low level gamma rays are made of heavier particles, which do not acquire a high velocity due to a given impulse and their mass.  As you can see, the total mass-energy of a high level gamma ray and the total mass-energy of a low level gamma ray can be equal, but the high level gamma ray will have more momentum to penetrate a lead shield. 

Gravock

[TinselKoala]

Gamma rays are not "heavy particles." They are photons of EM radiation, like  radio, microwave, IR, visible light, UV, X-rays and gammas, in increasing order of energy per photon. They do carry momentum, they move at the speed of light whatever their energies, and they are massless except for their energy equivalent mass.

The gammas released by electron-positron annihilation are 511 kEv gammas. These are just about the lowest energy gammas that you can have.... lower and you are starting to get into X-ray levels. The alleged transmutation reactions claimed by Rossi release these 511 kEv gammas.... and they are energetic enough to require more than a few millimeters of lead to shield them completely.

[MileHigh]

I copied some interesting comments from this link:  http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/03/rossi-on-certification-process/

I have always tried to use my critical thinking skills when it comes to evaluating free energy propositions, or in this case, an LENR proposition.  You read and take in information from all angles.  One thing that has always set off alarm bells in my head is when the person promoting the proposition says something like, "We will start producing a million units per year starting next year."

Does anybody remember this PESN headline, "Aviso Envisions 1 Million Self-Charging EV Retrofit Stations by 2011 End."  Not that I didn't already know that Ismael Aviso was full of crap, but that laughable statement just hammered home the point and showed how stupid and naive this man really is.  He is just a small guy running a garage or something with a few employees.  You would need a medium-sized army to accomplish what he claimed.

Rossi is making a similar claim.  Putting all of the testing issues aside, when Rossi claims that he is going to produce a million units per year, that should set off some alarm bells in your head.  Because if any of that is true, we should know were the factory is, we should be aware that they are hiring staff, they should be purchasing equipment, and so on and so on.  It's impossible to set up a factory producing a million units of a device like he is claiming without everyone following this story not being aware of the "footprint."

I don't follow this story too closely, but from what I understand, if you believe 100% in Rossi then you believe that there is a "secret factory" being set up but nobody is allowed to know where it is and nobody is allowed to know any details about it.  Am I roughly correct?

If I am correct in my assumptions then I am telling you this doesn't smell right at all.  I thought by the end of 2011 we were all supposed to be informed and have conclusive proof.  Are we now waiting for the end of 2012?

I will post the copied postings from a product/production development engineer below.  (They might be two separate people.)

MileHigh

[MileHigh]

Product Development Engineer on March 25, 2012 at 9:54 am        Nothing about Rossi’s story of the 1 mill. factory stacks up.
For starters, it is an “automated production line”, not “robotised” … at least, in all my time I have never heard any practicing prod. eng. refer to “robotised factories”. It is automation that makes these lines flow, robots are a bit part, sometimes … I wonder which prod. eng.s Rossi is working with who are talking abot “robotised factories”….
The rest of the story about “tweaking robots” for design changes is far-fetched or unbelievably naive. Setting up for runs of 1 mill is not trivial, small changes can create warehouses full of bad product in short times as the line is ramped up to speed during commissioning … it’s a high-pressure, high-risk activity ramping up a factory outputting 3k appliance units every 24 hrs. You can’t stop and you can’t change mid-flight. You need to test run 24/7 for weeks at full capacity to prove/debug the line at the design throughput and tinkering with product design changes is a major production undertaking … not to mention the possible impact on product quality.
Either Rossi has no clue or the people he’s working with have no clue and he’s ill-advised … just my professional opinion.

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Production Development Engineer on March 26, 2012 at 4:40 am        I’m also glad he has nailed his colours to the mast because I can now definitively view it as him being full of BS or wildly optimistic on the manufacturing… in some ways, for me, his claims of ramping up 1 mill. unit factory by the end of the year is more incredible than the claims of excess heat. Here’s a thought experiment to demonstrate.
First, imagine how you could make 30 E-cats a day, i.e. think about sourcing/casting/maching/folding all necessary large parts, source/manufacture temp. sensors, press. sensors, wires, electronic controller boards, plastic knobs, assemble, test, package, etc. That is more than 1 per hour (24/7). Now you have to do that 100 times faster … think carefully about what that means …
… you need to source and assemble 3000 temp. sensors, press. sensors, machined bodies, electronics, plastic bits, etc PER DAY. The die moulding, component design and production engineering (how to assemble in such quanties) for such large throughput factory takes at minimum 2 years (probably closer to 4) in my experience in the appliance industry, involving co-ordination of about 200-300 prod./design engineers (and at some point more engineers makes the project go slower, not faster so throwing more bodies at it does not help).
Most people cannot comprehend the scale of such a factory … they just blithely say “a million a year” without thinking the logistics of such a statement through. The engineering needed to achieve such a feat is not trivial, but I repeat myself. E.g. think of the space a stack of 3000 microwave ovens in their packaged factory boxes occupies and you get some idea of what he is claiming since an E-cat will be very similar in size and component complexity … now that stack is meant to be produced 24/7/365 …
Good luck to him, but everything I’ve seen him say suggests he has no clue what a 1 mill. per day plant would actually look like or how it needs to function. And I have personal experience with them, so draw your own conclusions ….