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FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

Started by chessnyt, September 16, 2011, 06:57:24 PM

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The new poll  starting 2-4-2012:  LENR technology

a) will soon lead to the end of the fossil fuel era and become the new standard.
b) will compete with fossil fuels for decades to come eventually replacing them.
c) will not only phase out fossil fuels but will also lead to the trials of the current corrupt powers in charge.
d) will lead to all of the above.

MileHigh

Okay big man, I will take the bait...

QuoteI predict that electric utility providers and large industrial factories will be the ones to purchase the 1MW E-Cats for the most part, but only when it's fully ready to produce high temperature steam (which is in the near future due to Rossi's advancements as of late).

1MW is a negligible amount of power for an electric utility so you are not making any sense.

QuoteIf the home units were able to make high temperature steam, then you would need a boiler in order to accumulate the proper/necessary steam pressure to run an efficient steam turbine. 

The whole notion of homes having their own steam turbine power generation systems doesn't make sense to me.  I really doubt that you could even find a 10 KW steam turbine or a steam turbine generator.  It sounds way too small so I doubt they exist as mainstream off-the-shelf products.  There is also the problem of the varying load for a single home and one would think that a steam turbine system would not be a good fit for that.  Then there is another problem for an E-Cat/turbine/generator for home electricity.  If your house is not drawing a load but your E-Cat is on, then the E-Cat is drawing power from the grid - more wasted grid power and money.

So feel free to go ahead and prove me wrong.  Show where you can get something to meet your needs and how much it costs.

QuoteNow just addressing Rossi's system (the home E-Cat); if it produces high temperature steam, then even a leak anywhere in the output lines can cause serious damage to life and property as high pressure leaks are almost invisible to the naked eye yet they can be sufficient to sever human limbs.

Indeed high-pressure steam, air, or water can be extremely dangerous.  But for a hypothetical home unit the danger would be designed out of the device.  Somebody else posted that any steam pipes would have an outer protective pipe to prevent little Johnny's arm from being sliced off.  More likely the steam pipes would be inside the unit and not readily accessible by the home users.  Where is your common sense?

QuoteThis is the other safety risks involved in such a system besides the potential for the boiler to explode (which could also cause great bodily harm and take out walls in close proximity).

No reference to automatic pressure release valves here - nor do I have an intimate knowledge of every single posting you have ever made on this forum.  With that in mind your comment about exploding E-Cat boilers taking out walls in a house sounds ridiculous, doesn't it?

QuoteMy plan is to purchase one of his home E-Cats and use it to drive a "wet" steam engine with a lower temperature boiler in series which in turn would drive an inefficient electric generator.  My whole idea is not to produce enough power to run my entire house.  Rather, I would simply be running a small generator in which I could charge a bank of batteries with while I'm sleeping (for 8 hours) and while I'm at work (for 10 hours more).

Not much common sense at all in that comment, you are on a forum devoted to energy research so what gives?  I count at least five stages in your hypothetical system and at each stage you will lose energy.  You will wipe out all of the alleged gains that your E-Cat is supposed to give you (can't forget that it draws power from the grid.)  So you will end up underwater with your grandiose plan to use an E-Cat to keep a bank of batteries charged to then drive an inverter.   I wasn't joking when I said that you would be better off simply bypassing your whole system and connecting straight to the grid.

QuoteYou have stated the most popular use of the home E-Cat which is indeed home heating.  More specifically, homes located in cold regions where electric heaters are cost prohibitive.  These are homes that are usually equipted with heating systems that require heating oil.  Rossi can save these people a small fortune relatively quickly.

My question was serious about the ROI calculation.  You really think a Rossi system can save people a small fortune for home heating in cold regions?  Doesn't an E-Cat supposedly take one full hour to start up?  So that's one hour's worth of electrical energy that you pay for but get no return on.  It's a real dilemma isn't it?  Do you keep your E-Cat on all the time and constantly draw power from the grid or do you shut it down one or more times a day and incur the electricity costs for the one-hour start up?  Some people prefer to simply turn off the heat overnight.  I don't think anyone at this point has enough data to say that an E-Cat for home heating will save people a "small fortune."  If you are confident that what you are saying is true then how about showing us the numbers?

QuoteNotice I didn't say "all"?  Now pay attention so I don't have to keep taking you to school.  This is getting old having to take you by the hand.

Keep stroking yourself like that and something is going to pop.

QuoteOnce again, you have put your foot in your mouth trying to spread disinformation and you have made a COMPLETE fool out of yourself in the process.  You hang yourself every time.

Still stroking.

QuoteAnd no, you should not apologise for your own ignorance.  I realize that you can not help it that you are inadequate.

Heavy breathing now....

QuoteNow before you start another pissing contest with me, you just may want to ask yourself just one little question.  Do you feel lucky?

Do you feel sticky?

MileHigh

WilbyInebriated

@all: regarding the troll's notion that "1MW is a negligible amount of power for an electric utility"

please see this page:
http://www.earthera.com/Media/EarthEraConnections/NewsletterView/tabid/247/ArticleID/159/smid/957/reftab/245/Default.aspx

note that this is 196.5-megawatt project, consisting of 131 wind turbines, capable of generating enough electricity to power more than 50,000 homes.

rhetorical question for the troll...  196.5/131 = how many MW's ? obviously, electric utilities most certainly are interested in 1MW units, as evidenced by REALITY.

but give him some credit folks... it's pretty hard to put your foot in your mouth like that when you've got your head so far up your arse.
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

MileHigh

Oh grotesque oozing farting Chet-monster Wil-beast, you are back again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfggccwQrcY

I looked up the annual electrical energy consumption of the State of New York, and in 2005 it was 150,000 million kWh.

http://apps1.eere.energy.gov/states/electricity.cfm/state=ny#total

So if you do the math that's about 17,000 megawatts of power.  And a typical medium-sized energy production facility is about 2000 megawatts.

When you play dumb to make a stupid point to get your wank material you just look stupid.  I am sure that you have heard of the term "economies of scale."  That's why turbine generators in power plants are really really big.  Duh!! Wil-beast Duh!!

MileHigh

WilbyInebriated

@all
"New York City is home to several clean energy projects. Two attempts to provide electricity to Roosevelt Island by installing underwater turbines in the East River failed when the turbine blades were torn off by currents. An improved turbine design proved to be successful and on 23 January 2012 FERC issed a 10-year pilot commercial license to Verdant Power’s RITE Project â€" the first commercial license for tidal power in the US. Under the license, Verdant Power expects to generate up to 1 megawatt after a staged installation of up to 30 turbines. Planning is also underway to construct windmills on a hill in the former Fresh Kills Landfill. The wind energy project would power 5,000 homes on Staten Island."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_issues_in_New_York_City


more proof that milehigh is full of shyte...
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

MileHigh

The grotesque Chet-monster Wil-beast speaks again...

Quoteneg·li·gi·ble  adj. Not significant or important enough to be worth considering; trifling.

Now if the Wil-beast has to consume 2000 calories worth of food per day in the form of flies and insects to remain the miserable sap that he is...  How will the Wil-beast react if his sticky tongue only manages to capture one fly per day that has only one calorie worth of food value?  He would whine and fart and ooze and complain that one calorie is negligible and he will have to go down into the sewers and look for dead maggots.

More proof that "Bad vibes all the time - Bad vibes get me off and I need some Kleenex" grotesque Wil-beast is full of puss and bile.

Who hates you baby?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQTV2FVL8jw

MileHigh