FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

[Rosemary Ainslie]

Hi Chess,

@Rosemary:
Thank you Rosemary, for posting some news on this newsworthy topic.  That was the basic premise of starting this thread in the news section in the first place.  The help is VERY appreciated.  I hope that others will continue to contribute their finds as well.
I have grown up around an old philosophy which I believe to this day which is; If you're not part of the solution, then you are automatically part of the problem.  I'm glad people like yourself have decided to be a part of the solution.  It's impossible to be on both sides as a house divided against itself can not stand. 

I love to fix things and I hope even more get involved in some way to usher in this new game changer and assist in making a positive impact on the entire world.

What's really needed is a platform that is not subject to the editorial bias that tends to pollute these kinds of interests.  But the nice thing here is that the most of us are standing firm behind Rossi and that has the real merit of being upbeat.  And we're all part of the solution.  But you, Chess - are more so than most.  I'm only doing by bit to emulate your efforts.  I think the saying is that 'imitation is the sincerest form of flattery'?  Something like that.

Take good care Chess.  I'll be sending you some topical links towards the end of this week.  Can't wait.
Rosie

[fuzzytomcat]

My dear FTC
I would have thought that IF Dick Smith wanted to advance the real evidence of energy efficiencies his M1$ (Australian?) would be better spent on a plane trip to NASA to interview their cold fusion or LENR claimants.

When anyone offers a prize they reserve the right to adjudicate those awards. Which would put any claim by Rossi or anyone else - AT RISK rather than otherwise - should they bother to claim that award. 

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

I see there is some misunderstanding here about my beliefs that LENR can work and has potential as a energy supply. 

The posting of mine was directed at chessnyt, but the misconception or inability to download the PDF I referenced, that NASA would have all the answers on "ROSSI" and specifically his e-cat "Low Energy Nuclear Reaction" ( LENR ) device with the blustery and verifiable offer of $ 1,000,000 (USD) from an Australian businessman "Dick Smith" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Smith_%28entrepreneur%29 found in this article ....

http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2012/02/14/smith-offers-1-million-prize-for-successful-e-cat-demo/

As all can see this is after being approached in behalf of Andrea Rossi by Mr Sol Millin of the Byron New Energy Trust, and Mr Smith only asked for a few qualifications as shown in the attached PDF.

http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/RossiECat/Solihin-Millin/SmithOffer.pdf   ( shown for complete clarity )
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From: Margot Egan [on behalf of Dick Smith]
Sent: Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:51 PM
To: Andrea Rossi Re. E-CAT
Subject: from Dick Smith in Australia Re. U.S. One Million Dollars for Successful Re-Testing of E-CAT

To: Andrea Rossi
From: Dick Smith

Dear Mr Rossi

Re: USD1,000,000 for Successful Repeat of E-CAT Demonstration

Dick Smith is my name. I am writing to you from Sydney, Australia. Possibly the best information in relation to my background is on Wikipedia â€" see HERE.

Some time ago I was contacted by Mr Sol Millin of the Byron New Energy Trust. Mr Millin has had extensive communication with you. Mr Millin communicated the advantages of your ECAT unit in relation to energy and how it had the potential to solve the world’s energy problems. Mr Millin said that he had your authority to act on your behalf in relation to an agreement for the Australian “rights” to your invention.

After some discussion, I agreed that I would invest AUD200,000 provided that evidence could be shown that the unit actually worked as claimed.

There has been a lot of to’ing-and-fro’ing since then, with Mr Millin claiming that he has provided me with the evidence and with my insistence that this is not the case.

At one stage Mr Millin even sent me an email (attached) threatening to sue me for one-hundred-million-dollars if I did not proceed with sending him my AUD200,000.

As Mr Millin and I do not seem to be getting anywhere on this issue, I have determined a way that we could possibly break this nexus, i.e. I would like to offer you USD1,000,000 for a successful repeat of the March 29, 2011 demonstration.

One million US dollars will be made out to you as a Bank cheque or will be held in an escrow account if you desire. I do not want to know how the unit operates, nor to have a share in the profits from any sales. My satisfaction will come from knowing that if the unit is successful, then some of the world’s greatest problems â€" especially in relation to climate change â€" will be solved.

I point out that over the last few decades my wife and I have donated many millions of dollars to scientific research, much of it without any immediate results. We have not complained about this.

My offer is very simple, which I will restate: I ask you to repeat the March 29, 2011 demonstration purported to show that your E-CAT unit had an output power of many times the input power through LENR (low energy nuclear reactions).

As the sole judges as to whether this can be repeated correctly, I suggest we use the two Swedish scientists, Kullander and Essen, as they attended the March 2011 demonstration and wrote a report. I would be happy to cover any reasonable cost of having them flying to Italy to attend the repeat of the demonstration. They can then check the wires (because, as you know, there have been claims that the wiring may have been misconnected) and also the power output of the unit in relation to both the heated water and the steam.

I would be happy, with Kullander and Essen as the sole judges as to whether the unit has the power output you have claimed, to hand you an irrevocable Bank cheque for USD1,000,000 made out in your name if the demonstration is successfully completed. If Kullander and Essen are not available, I am happy to agree with you on two other individuals of similar expertise to attend the new demonstration as the judges. I am sure we can come to an agreement as to who would be suitable and independent. It would also be necessary to have a third person â€" who you and I can agree on â€" to assist with the type of measuring equipment and its accuracy so there are no doubts that the scientific community will accept the results.

I understand the 29 March 2011 demonstration took place over a period of more than six hours and showed a power multiplication of approximately ten times. To make the demonstration test even fairer, I would be happy if the demonstration to qualify for the assignment of the USD1,000,000 were reduced to a five-hour period and with a power multiplication ratio of at least eight times. This will make it very much easier for you to qualify for the USD1,000,000, As far as I am concerned, eight times’ power multiplication through LENRs will solve the world’s power problems for the future.

Mr Rossi, I believe the advantage of my offer is that you can show the sceptics (I am presently one of them) that the unit actually works as you have claimed. I notice that you have had other investors offering very large amounts of money, and I can understand your concern in relation to this. My offer is USD1,000,000 without any conditions attached at all in relation to where you will spend the money. You can use it for further research â€" perhaps to re-purchase your house or even donate some of the money to charity.

Well, there it is. It’s quite simple. Successfully replicate the demonstration showing the power gain from LENRs of March 29, 2011 with the two Swedish
scientists, Kullander and Essen (or two other individuals we agree on), and USD1,000,000 will be yours.

Also, of course, you will receive attention from around the world and a well-deserved Nobel Laureate. I will consider I have had value for my money as the person who actually proves that your unit works (or doesn’t) â€" an issue which will be resolved for all time.

My offer is open for you to accept until close of business Monday 20 February 2012. I look forward to your reply.

Yours faithfully
Dick Smith
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Again ...... I haven't been able to find any information that's verifiably credible and not second hand or from a shill who publicizes and praises ROSSI's "e-cat" device for reasons of self-interest, personal profit, friendship or loyalty just to name a few. I want to know exactly what happened with this contract proposal from Mr. Don Smith ? 

I would assume after reading the letter that a demonstration on the claimed results previously done with only doing a repeat, including a reduced time frame of the testing for $ 1,000,000 ( USD ) would be a no brainer and a FREE "million bucks". 

This probably would of paid for the complete Underwriter Laboratory ( UL ) life safety engineering, testing and evaluation ..... for FREE ? 

I'm I missing something here ? 

FTC

[lumen]

fuzzytomcat:
The only thing you need to ask yourself is, Why would someone with so much money as Dick Smith want to know for sure if the E-cat is a real working device?
and now you know the answer!

[MileHigh]

Rosemary:

Nice to see this caliber post.  Are you 'changing sides'?  MileHigh?  Or just 'infected' with a rare 'troll' attribute of an 'open' rather than a vacuous mind.  Either way. I'm possibly still being absurdly optimistic but there are the occasional glimpses of what seems to be some residual reasonableness.  Very nice it is too.

What's really needed is a platform that is not subject to the editorial bias that tends to pollute these kinds of interests

So it's like you want a form of Apartheid around here.  There are the "regular" contributors and there are the "trolls."  The trolls are people that have a differing opinion than yours.  The trolls are second-class citizens and they should be restricted to "townships," right Rosemary? Trolls "pollute" the environment and "regular" people like you have to "manage" them.

Don't you dare ever call me a troll again.  Do you understand me?  Don't you dare.

Wouldn't it be more to the point that those houses in that housing development each have their own E-cat?  Then there would be no dependency on a central supply.  And given the cheapness of each power unit - perhaps that proposal is reasonable.

No and nobody knows what one will cost.  Nobody has ever seen one.  You have to control your urge to jump to conclusions.

And if we all end up radiating too much heat from our houses - then with all that surplus energy we should be able to cool it down before it's actually released.  I hope.  Because this is, indeed, a potential problem that most certainly will need our best attention.  Thus far the argument is that global heating is the direct result of carbon pollution.  What happens when that heating is no longer associated with 'trapped' solar radiation?  Can someone? Loner - Chess - answer this?  Can we simply emit an excess of radiant energy directly out of the stratosphere?  And into space?  Surely there's a potential problem here?

You are clearly out of your element and your points above make very little sense or you don't understand the issues.  Somebody else can discuss it with you if they want to.

You really need to get your head around this MileHigh.  The fact is that these tests have been done under expert scrutiny and measured accordingly.

There have been no conclusive tests done.  An analogy is the RomeroUK fake magnet motor.  Hundreds of people believed it was real without any conclusive proof.  It's time to take off the rose coloured glasses and demand hard and verifiable data.  Using alleged steam production was one of the worst possible things that Rossi could do and you should do some soul searching about that.

Again, I'm open to correction but I believe that Rossi ran his own factory on this energy for a couple of years before going public on this. 

I have never heard that before and in the context of what has happened so far I would say that that allegation is laughable nonsense.

MileHigh

[Gwandau]

fuzzytomcat,

You say it is a no brainer. That suggests that you without doubt believe the sceptic Mr Smith to be a guy with good intentions.
How do we know this?

If testing the Rossi e-cat really would be worth giving away 1 million dollars, why didn't he just buy a 1 MW unit???
It costs one and a half million dollars, and the whole unit would be his to do whatever he wanted with.

That would have solved all his questions.  He would have got it delievered to any adress within 4 months, and he could have performed whatever tests he wanted.
And best of all, he could sell the MW unit if it worked, and get money back to use for his other projects.

This whole thing with Mr. Dick Smith smells funny, and I´m sure this is the reason Andrea Rossi has declined involvement in any test projects with this guy.

Gwandau