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Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells

Started by ibpointless2, November 02, 2011, 02:54:15 PM

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Quote from: triffid on March 12, 2012, 08:11:42 PM
After I logged off yesterday I added two more electrodes to the wet sponge to test .Pencil lead and another copper plated nail(i had forgotten to use a control).Copper plated nail to copper plated nail gave me a voltage  of .005.So to correct my range for the nails(.011-.005=.006 volts and then .050-.005=.045volts).Now I still see a higher voltage when I use black copper oxide nail instead of a copper plated nail.I repeatedly got 1.34 volts from the pencil lead and the magnesium strip using just tap water.Then I got a crazy idea.I wanted to see if I could get any voltage at all from dry epsom salts straight from the box with no glue,no salt sub,no water.So I filled an empty medicine bottle with dry epsom salts ,stuck a pencil lead and a magnesium strip without touching in the bottle.I got a max of .004 volts from the dry epsom salts.Already the pencil lead and magnesium strip had decided for itself what direction of pos and neg it was going to take.Something had happened at the boundaries of the electrodes to determine the direction of voltages.With no water ,no other things except dry from the box epsom salts and the two electrodes I chose to stick in the bottle.So the crystals are giving off tiny voltages all the time.When you add water and morton salt sub and the electrodes the cell organizes itself (as it dries out) into a crystal matrix that produces electricity from the vacuum.
triffid




Glad you did this experiment. Many people say the reason why my crystal glue cell works is due to the Epsom salt, but like you said sticking your electrodes in a cup full of Epsom salt only gives you 4mV. So Epsom salt by itself is not the reason why the cells work. Now try to make these cells....



1)Only glue with copper and magnesium electrodes


2)also make a glue and Epsom salt only cells with copper and magnesium electrodes.


What you will notice about these two cells is that over time they will loose voltage and the one with Epsom salt and glue only will get to 0 volts within a month. The reason why its important to make these two cells is to show other people that its not that Epsom salt and the glue contains water, because over time they will die out. Now when you make a crystal glue cell (glue-salt substitute-Epsom salt cell) than the voltage will never go dead thus proving that no water is at play.


I'm so glad you did this too Triffid, I get so many people telling me the reason why my cells work is due to trapped water but if they would make the two cells that I've mention above they will learn that just because the glue and Epsom salt contain water does not prove that my cells use water. The water has nothing to do with why my cells work, something else is at play and it could be the vacuum energy. Thank you Triffid for doing the simple test!  :)

triffid

Ib2,you talk about the high resistance of your cells but I dont see an average  of 1.33 volts per cell as bad.You are still putting your cells on paper it seems.Maybe something is coming in from the paper to cause high resistance?I was never any good at stirring these cells so I never got beyond that.I wonder what other dry crystals out there gives off tiny voltages like epsom salts?triffid




does dry sand give off tiny voltages?

ibpointless2

Quote from: triffid on March 12, 2012, 08:56:00 PM
Ib2,you talk about the high resistance of your cells but I dont see an average  of 1.33 volts per cell as bad.You are still putting your cells on paper it seems.Maybe something is coming in from the paper to cause high resistance?I was never any good at stirring these cells so I never got beyond that.I wonder what other dry crystals out there gives off tiny voltages like epsom salts?triffid




does dry sand give off tiny voltages?


Hi triffid


high resistance only affects amps,  voltage is only slightly affected.


I'm glad you brought up the paper issue. Many people think i get my power from the water in the paper or the paper absorbing water, this is not true. The picture below is of one of my older crystal glue cells. I made this cell before i had Magnesium electrodes so it has copper and aluminum electrodes so getting a half a volt was normal. This cell is almost a year old now and it was built on top of a Gatorade bottle cap. The cap is melted and the cell is a little burnt due to me putting it in the oven so that's why it looks a little messed up, but the key point is that its alive and working even though its on plastic and was cooked. The paper is not bringing water in, in-fact its doing the opposite. As the glue dries the paper wicks away the water from the cell and allows it to dry faster. So the paper is not the reason why i get voltage and to prove this you can take two electrodes to dry paper and see that you get almost nothing in voltage.


If you wan't completely dry salt crystal cells,  i've made what I call the pressure cell and the stove top cells. Here is more info on them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EWATxAJooE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozyjpZw07bA




triffid

You are welcome IB2,I had a burst of inspiration I guess. I may know now how to build a dry electrostatic battery from the dry epsom salts.
I have been looking for 1000 volt battery designs and found none with crystals.I found three designs without crystals.But now I feel that I can blend the two and use my circuit I posted here.I got shocked thru my brother on saturday because he likes to play with static electricity.He wears cotton coveralls,sits on a chair covered with synthetic fabric(nylon I think).When he stands up.Thats friction he carries a charge with him and shocked me thru a sparkplug a couple of times.!Quite a jolt it was too.I think I can create a capacitor from  (200 feet of insulated wire)wire to put inside a gallon jar filled with epsom salts.Hopefully the wire capacitor will charge up discharging thru the sparkplug going thru the rest of the circuit to an earth ground.So the epsom salts is generating tiny voltages,thru induction the capacitor charges up and discharges thru the sparkplug...you get the idea.With what paul lowrence was saying about plates Maybe dry epsom salts is the way to go?


Just an idea here but this week Im busy with surgery to remove a catarat.I have to get ready to have an operation on thursday
triffid

triffid

I like the fact you are still getting .6 volts from that year old glue cell. My 30 count panel was a total mess.Using a paper egg carton that may have had sodium hydroxide in it.I did not toss it out because I hope to study it later.See if heat can bring it back?It blew me away to realize that somehow the electrodes had figured out how the electricity was going to flow when they were stuck in the dry epsom salts.triffid