Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells

[NickZ]

  Can you connect it to a red led, instead? 

[jbignes5]

  You may be right about it acting as a transformer.  I did see a video where a  guy obtained a nice output with only a just few wraps of mg ribbon, over the solid copper core.. So, more tests are needed. There is some hidden magic there...
  I had a thought about making my own large toroid core made out of carbon, (inside a toroid shaped mold), then after removing the core from the mold, winding aluminum or mag wire around it.  I'll probably make a smaller version, like a two or three inch carbon toroid first.  It has to work, but how well is the question. I have a feeling that it would work very well, with low impedance, and a higher running output, conserving its output levels instead of dissipating them, as the flat plates may do.

Just remember the crystals are the magic here. They both protect the metals and conduct via the sheets that form the crystals structure. You can think of this process like this: The nozzle on a hose.

I had more time to think about the main differences between IB's battery and John's. IB uses induction in the form of a spiral around the target large formed electrode. This will amplify by itself just from the induction alone. When you add a crystal focus-er on top of that it increases the voltage and indirectly the current or flow. Remember the hose analogy. The one thing that allows this to happen is that we are using charges instead of our current electricity. Charges are like little self contained units and they are being fired at the copper inner electrode which converts that to electrical impulses. The gun like action being the crystalline structure it has to pass through. The external coil of magnesium is the collector from the environment and it is a coil after all and that raises the potential of the magnesium in a big way when compared to the inner electrode.

I'm starting to wonder if these crystalline structures are solid at all? It seems to me that they are built via little flakes that are triangular in shape as the sheets form and stack. It leads me to believe they are made entirely like a house of cards would be made. This would also explain the ability of some crystals to have piezo electric abilities or vibratory movement in either direction. This event is nothing more then charges being sucked into the structures base then squeezed out the tips. Hence why I called them charge pumps. The charges can flow easily one way but not the other way. This is the diode like action we are seeing and the forced output we are seeing when we bias the diode to flow with the electrodes and just the base potential of the electrodes in ambient space. This also proves why some of them need to be bumped open or biased on by an external charge source when different materials are used for the crystalline matrix. We need to start thinking of another component we could squeeze into the structure to improve the flow of charges through the structure. With current mixed that use borax I believe that is handled by Boron. This is the same stuff that we use to increase the magnetic properties of magnets and it's shape is this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icosahedra . Notice the triangular sheets that form the shape.

More on Platonic Solids: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platonic_solid

This is some very esoteric and age old stuff here. When we are talking about Plato that is pretty old. There is something to this stuff so read it all please, it will help immensely!

Some interesting views as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Shechtman

When I started to look into crystals and the why water freezes into the structures it does I found this page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystallization

I think we need to pay attention to the cooling rate and crystal formations we are trying to setup here in order to obtain the best formations to channel more current.

Well my chems are here. Now for the metals. Copper is easy to get but magnesium might be tricky. Some have reported getting magnesium from home depot? Is that true? What was the packaging like? Did it have anything in particular that I might find it easier?

Chems list:

Borax
Nu-Salt: Potassium chloride, 1% cream of tartar & silicon doixide
McCormics Alum
Coarse crystal Sea Salt
Epsom Salt

[ibpointless2]

@jbignes5

The best way to get magnesium is through Ebay.com.
Here's a link to it

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1311&_nkw=magnesium+ribbon&_sacat=See-All-Categories

[NickZ]

 
   
   I don't use salts, nor have I needed them, as they are the cause of the oxidation, along with the water that it takes to keep them working. Dry salts don't create any voltage, they need water. Salts are not protecting the metals, it is the semiconductor layer, or the glue that is not allowing the air or moisture in.
  Ib has made a very unusual cell, which traps the water in the cell, something that John Hutchinson may have come up with originally.  But it was Ibs use of the glue, and salt substitute that makes the difference, on the current cells.  His newest cell is a replication of what we are now calling the Lasersaber Cell, as it was his design, I believe.  However we still don't know what Ib's version  (the Blue cell) will produce, as far as the long term running output levels.  As his current levels up to now have been very low,  but when you have 50mAs or higher, like my cell produce, even without the use of salts, then that may be a different thing. Time will tell, but so far his unique methods seams to be working very well. And even Lasersaber likes what Ib has done with his design.
  I have not used his mix, other than to make a table salt cell, which is still working after some months. As I can still get a decent output just by using carbon and aluminum, and yes the quartz crystals.   But, the semiconductor cell like John Bedini or Marcus Reid are working on, is something else again. Hopefully we can develop that into being a real work horse, also.

   The potential difference of the two different metals, or of the carbon which conducts better than any metal will create a voltage, and a current. This not due to the carbon or to the two different metals, or the use of salts, but because of the field energies that surround them, the ambient energies. That is where the magic lies, for me, and how to makes cells that can tap that source.

[ibpointless2]

 
   
   I don't use salts, nor have I needed them, as they are the cause of the oxidation, along with the water that it takes to keep them working. Dry salts don't create any voltage, they need water. Salts are not protecting the metals, it is the semiconductor layer, or the glue that is not allowing the air or moisture in.
  Ib has made a very unusual cell, which traps the water in the cell, something that John Hutchinson may have come up with originally.  But it was Ibs use of the glue, and salt substitute that makes the difference, on the current cells.  His newest cell is a replication of what we are now calling the Lasersaber Cell, as it was his design, I believe.  However we still don't know what Ib's version  (the Blue cell) will produce, as far as the long term running output levels.  As his current levels up to now have been very low,  but when you have 50mAs or higher, like my cell produce, even without the use of salts, then that may be a different thing. Time will tell, but so far his unique methods seams to be working very well. And even Lasersaber likes what Ib has done with his design.
  I have not used his mix, other than to make a table salt cell, which is still working after some months. As I can still get a decent output just by using carbon and aluminum, and yes the quartz crystals.   But, the semiconductor cell like John Bedini or Marcus Reid are working on, is something else again. Hopefully we can develop that into being a real work horse, also.

   The potential difference of the two different metals, or of the carbon which conducts better than any metal will create a voltage, and a current. This not due to the carbon or to the two different metals, or the use of salts, but because of the field energies that surround them, the ambient energies. That is where the magic lies, for me, and how to makes cells that can tap that source.

I would like for you to prove to me how water is trapped in my cells.

The very reason why my the glue cell work is not due to the glue or the water that's in the glue. You can make my cells without the glue. The biggest reason why my glue cell works is due to Salt substitute and Epsom salt together mixing as one crystal, you can't just use one of the salts you need both or it will produce very weak and useless cells.

I've done countless testing on the glue cells. Do you how I know that my cells don't have water? One way I've found out is that if you have 5 grams of glue and let it dry it drops to 2 grams, which means that 3 grams of Elmer's glue is water. I use that ratio when making a cells, this is how I know a cell is dry. Also if you have ever made the actual crystal glue cell you would notice that it will reject all the water that's in it when you mix the salt substitute and Epsom salt. Its not the salts that cause oxidation its the water. To say that water is trapped in my cell is flawed because if water was still trapped in the glue then there would be no need for the salts or better yet since Epsom salt has 7 water molecules i could just use Epsom salt and Elmer's glue but it doesn't work that way. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb-CiuuSP8Y

What makes the Crystal glue cell so special is that no water is needed for it to run. Water is the reason why cells die and that is because water is the universal solvent ( can destroy anything). Avoid water and you get a cell that last for a long time. This is what makes Bedini's cells flawed, he needs water to make them run. There is no semi-conductor action in Bedini's carbonate crystal cells, its a very fancy galvanic battery. In-fact bedini carbonate crystal cells cells have been done before http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrQAT9z0ASI

John Hutchinson is either a fake or not telling us something. Marcus Reid won't tell us nothing so who knows? This whole semi-conductor thing has gotten a little out of hand, What powers most everyone's cells is a galvanic reaction due to the water. If you cells still works after its been dried for a week, been spray painted fully and still has its original voltage after a month then you have a real crystal cells and not a galvanic battery.