Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells

[triffid]

I have been wondering about tumeric powder(its a spice).Also nitcotine?Sound crazy?Maybe it is but cigerette butts have fibers in them.They can be found everywhere.triffid

[ibpointless2]

I have been wondering about tumeric powder(its a spice).Also nitcotine?Sound crazy?Maybe it is but cigerette butts have fibers in them.They can be found everywhere.triffid

I like the way you think! 


I've been trying everything under the sun. I even tried using metal polish, its suppose to clean and protect the metal but it only corrode the magnesium away . The irony is killing me. 


I also tired honey, it works ok but give little amps.


corn-syrup was ok, .


WD-40 was bad, it tarnish copper really badly.


rubbing alcohol works ok but evaporates quickly.


dirt-water was ok, but it contains water so its very corrosive to metal.


sun screen is ok.


I have hundreds of different cells with different mixtures of different things. The ok cells are not great but the corrode much slower than others. There is one electrolyte of many that is interesting, it corrodes the magnesium black but the magnesium doesn't flake of like normal corrosion would. The electrolyte is clothes detergent. As soon as you remove the magnesium from  the clothes detergent the black layer will start to turn white, which means oxygen is starting to attack it.

[PhiChaser]

ok the best way to deposit the borax is to use a super saturated solution of borax and water then heat up you aluminum and spray it on the aluminum. It will turn a puffy white coating then heat it up in the oven and bake it on low about 200 degrees for 1/2-1 hour.. Thats what I did and it turned out to be the best coating I have ever had.

Thanks Bignes5, I will try that when I start working on larger more 'permanent' cells. What kind of smells/toxic gasses is that likely to make cooking aluminum and borax?? (The missus is gonna love that BTW LOL!!!) Maybe just dip and microwave? (j/k guys heh heh...).
Gotta go, will post more this weekend.
More cells, more tests, more fun!!

Happy experimenting,
PC

EDIT: @ IB: Most laundry detergent contain some kind of water softener doesn't it?? That is what Borax is. Makes sense to me anyways..

[jbignes5]

Thanks Bignes5, I will try that when I start working on larger more 'permanent' cells. What kind of smells/toxic gasses is that likely to make cooking aluminum and borax?? (The missus is gonna love that BTW LOL!!!) Maybe just dip and microwave? (j/k guys heh heh...).
Gotta go, will post more this weekend.
More cells, more tests, more fun!!

Happy experimenting,
PC

When I did the treatment it did not emit any gases that I could detect. After all it is just borax. We started to use borax because it forms the oxide better on aluminum and repairs any breaks on the fly. Just like inside of an electrolytic capacitor. Like I said I was using my first cells for 3-4 months with zero corrosion of the aluminum electrode. Now that wouldn't be surprising  if it wasn't imersed in a liquid. The liquid was epsom salts and the other ingredients that I mentioned.


I have to say that I was extremely surprised to see the aluminum in such great condition when I inspected it closely. It was hard to see through all the crystals that had formed around the inside of the jar. I had thought it was completely formed but to my astonishment it wasn't. I would say that after 3-4 months it was maybe 70% formed with zero pits or discolorization. In fact most of the aluminum looked shinny and new.


I have a picture of when I put it together.


http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p171/jbignes5/100_0348.jpg


And this is of it running my led head unit from a shake up flashlight.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p171/jbignes5/100_0364.jpg

Please understand that I had 4-5 cells all different at that time running that led unit.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p171/jbignes5/100_0347.jpg

This was just after it was created sitting cooling. For some reason when it was hot it had less voltage then after it has cooled and set for a good bit. it's slowly climbed up in voltage and settled to about 1.4-1.6 volts. It would vary from day to day. Now some major points to follow here. The jar was glass. <- this is not recommended because it isolates the aluminum electrode from the environmental energy. I think this is why the cell varied from day to day. It was almost like a quasi leyden jar. I think for optimal performance you should have the electrode exterior so that is grounds via induction.

[ibpointless2]

This is a video showing two types of corrosion of magnesium. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF60fW3NbUA