Silencing

[paxo]

What are the chances of an inventor being silenced by OPEC or any governments if he/she happens to have fabricated a free energy device ?

[RonS]

Interesting how your question (statement) can be looked at; One might think that if someone is saying they have a device, yet the powers know it can not be possible, one could say avoid the issue, don't bring attention to it. Yet it may also be similar to some one screaming 'FIRE' in a crowede shopping mall, all hell breaks out. Therefore you want to set an example that you never shout "Fire' in a public place.

For the real devices (that do or could work), the powers have ample tools to keep it out of the main stream. National Security is just one. Of course the inventor could just be bought out and part of the deal is to say it just did'n work or maybe just drop the whole concept and act like a fool. With ample payment most people would act the part of a fool?

I myself feel that its a mix. Some device are taken in silence, others are taken overtly and others are bought and maybe a few are dumped along with the inventor. This I feel is where you see the men from the boys so to speak. The men know what could really happen and they try to cut a deal, the boys want a name in print and a place in so called energy history.

All devices seem to be geared towards the status quo (control) that are actual working systems, all others are dreams (My Feeling), as it seems they always have a computer model, paper plans, a wet dream or need funding, how may prototype have been seen by people that will stand behind them (Engineers & Scientists)?

[gn0stik]

It depends on how the inventor goes about it. If the inventor is a very public person, and shows his device at every conference around, he will get attention.

If said inventor is soliciting funds for a manufacturing run, you can at least expect to get a phone call, if not a car idling across the street from your house. If you have several prototypes which you have had independently tested by labs etc, and you show them off, expect to be raided and lose them.

It seems that the only way to really get info like this out, is to give it away. Post full details, and videos, of demos, and instructions on building, materials lists, etc. and so on.. And not just in one place, but many. As many free energy forums as he can find. Then there's nothing "they" can do about it. The instant it happens thousands will download the plans, and even if the sites are taken down, they'll be out.

I myself feel that its a mix. Some device are taken in silence, others are taken overtly and others are bought and maybe a few are dumped along with the inventor. This I feel is where you see the men from the boys so to speak. The men know what could really happen and they try to cut a deal, the boys want a name in print and a place in so called energy history.

Nope, there haven't been any men yet. But, who's to say what one would do in a situation like that.

[RonS]

I agree with all of what you have said (except) the part of give it to the world. I have been around a number of years and have seen first hand just how this will not work, let me bend your ear for a minute or two.

1. i in 10,000 people would even understand the concept of individualized energy source. First off, most don't want to bother, they want to call the utility company when the power is out, pump the gas rather than make it in the corner closet of their apt.

2. How many people have the scientific or mechanicial ability (NO PUT DOWN TO ANYONE HERE!) that could Build, and Service a complex device?

3. How many people have electronic labs or machine shops to construct a complex precise device?

Now that said, if I were a power that was about to get buried by a new energy source (Utilities, Oil Providers etc.,) or a taxing entity obtaining money from energy sales, what might I do?

One thing is to capitalize on what I said above, build a device and knock a few people off and blame it on a new energy source that causes great harm to the user. Make all kinds of statements that the theory is false. Remember they have the press and airwaves and the (NET).

Have you never heard of thigs being on the net one day and washed the next, it happens (I know for a fact it is possible).

Granted you can come back and say everyone makes a copy, prints it out and tells a friend, even so it would not fly, it just would not. Only a few of use really want this type of energy source. When you see people at the gas pump saying, 'Oh my god how will I feed my children with these high prices', while in the next breath saying, 'Oh its so high, but what can we do about it, guess we just pay it and move on'.

One last thing, when you watch the tv news you hear one weekend that gas has increased 14 cents a gal the last week, the next week you hear relief in sight gas prices down 4 cents for the week. Next week gas up 18 cents. Next day, We have a break in gas price, it came down 2 cents today.

Something say here giving it to the works has major problems?

[hartiberlin]

Hi Ron,
you are right,
but if we can come up with a realworking open license device,
that everybody , who can solder and have a little
electronics experience can build and selll it to his neighbours, there will
be a change...!