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Overunity Machines Forum



3 Levered Wheel

Started by johnny874, November 19, 2011, 12:15:20 PM

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johnny874

Using 3 levers, a temporay imbalance can be created.
This happens when one lever is down (stationary while the wheel rotates) creating a 90 degree angle with another lever.
While the down lever moves from it's advance position backwards, the wheel can increase it's spin wile this imbalance exists.
Will it work ? That's why some of us build.

                                                               Jim

edited to delet link and add;  The comments I make about building and builders are for critics and people who claim to build.
Myself, I discussed various ideas for about a year before I built anything. I don't mind showing how I work. I know for someone who is thinking about doing their own build(s), it will give them something to think about.
And for something like the 3 levered disc, as I work on it, the design will change. This is something I have to be a basic truth. Without having previous experience building a certain way or understanding a specific idea, it is all a learning process.

DreamThinkBuild

Hi Jim,

Here is an interesting patent on using the flow of fluid and weight to displace bags of air.

Patent# 7895934
Apparatus for generating electricity through oscillatory motion
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7895934.html
or
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=UuocAQAAEBAJ

johnny874

Quote from: DreamThinkBuild on November 20, 2011, 06:50:16 PM
Hi Jim,

Here is an interesting patent on using the flow of fluid and weight to displace bags of air.

Patent# 7895934
Apparatus for generating electricity through oscillatory motion
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7895934.html
or
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=UuocAQAAEBAJ

   Hi DTB,
  That is an interesting device.  I tried to get an idea of how the weights were supposed to move. It could be I'll need to read his entire application. Any chance you happen to know this part of it ?
  I took a picture of a quick layout of my concept. If 1 is the pivot/fulcrum (outside edge of wheel/disc), then A has about 50% force, C has about 86.6% and B would have 0. And this would cause C to drop. As C drops, it causes the wheel/disc to rotate. Then as A advances, it would be putting the wheel back in balance. 
How over unity would be achieved is when B drops. A would not have an opposing lift. This is because as it is advancing, it is also dropping. This would mean the energy generated when C drops would be conserved.

                                                                           Jim

DreamThinkBuild

Hi Jim,

The way the patent came across to me was that they have two air bags that are connected by a hose. Push on one and the other rises, this allows the air bag to be placed on the other side and slightly off center of the wheel to create a lift across from the falling one. At first the water threw me off because it looked like it would just slow the ball down. Then I realized that it is being used to distribute the weight and the flowing motion once started will help push the ball.

johnny874

Quote from: DreamThinkBuild on November 21, 2011, 05:44:16 PM
Hi Jim,

The way the patent came across to me was that they have two air bags that are connected by a hose. Push on one and the other rises, this allows the air bag to be placed on the other side and slightly off center of the wheel to create a lift across from the falling one. At first the water threw me off because it looked like it would just slow the ball down. Then I realized that it is being used to distribute the weight and the flowing motion once started will help push the ball.

   HI DTB,
  I think the one thing he over looked was the air bag in front of the one being emptied. That would create a road block as his wheel would have to ride up on it in order to compress it.
With my basic idea, there would be a weight in the direction of travel that would become the prime mover. Sort of lead the way.
Still, his idea does open up other trains of thought.

                                                                              Jim