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Water as fuel problems

Started by rickhunter7, June 21, 2006, 10:47:12 AM

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lancaIV

I can only respond for myself:personally ,no !

But there are several functional prototypes,
for example BMW with to H2 conversed ic-OTTO-engine !

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  dL
p.s.:beginning with small steps,
      www.autogas-india.com/fuelcell.html    "Hydrogen" generator
                                                            Brown-gas
                                                             

Liberty

Quote from: rickhunter7 on June 22, 2006, 05:03:20 PM
One question. Have any of you ever succesfully run a car on water/hidrogen/whatever?

There is an article that talks about your question.  Go to:  http://pesn.com/2006/06/22/9500284_Bill_Williams_Joe_cell/
Liberty

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Walter Hofmann

Hi all,
I got a question for the practical guys, did anyone ever measure the output pressure with a gauge?
I used a welding gas gauge and I only can get 0.6 psi even that the cells produce what can be seen in the bubbler, but it seems that after this amount of pressure is reached the cells slows automatical down ( less bubbles)till the pressure is released and then start over with lots of big ( about 0.75 to 1 inch)bubbles. I can get a party ballon only be filled to the size of about 2 inch diameter no matter how long the cell are running.
somebody has experience the same and know why this is?
practical comments please
greetings
walt

rickhunter7

Quote from: Walter Hofmann on June 23, 2006, 05:53:42 AM
Hi all,
I got a question for the practical guys, did anyone ever measure the output pressure with a gauge?
I used a welding gas gauge and I only can get 0.6 psi even that the cells produce what can be seen in the bubbler, but it seems that after this amount of pressure is reached the cells slows automatical down ( less bubbles)till the pressure is released and then start over with lots of big ( about 0.75 to 1 inch)bubbles. I can get a party ballon only be filled to the size of about 2 inch diameter no matter how long the cell are running.
somebody has experience the same and know why this is?
practical comments please
greetings
walt

I think this is related to why shaken sodas only burst when you open them. When you shake a soda, gas is produced, but then pressure is produced in the free space until that pressure prevents more gas from being produced, when you open the can, that pressure is released, a lot more gas is produced and you end up soaked in soda foam.
Maybe the production of gas within a liquid is inhibited by external pressure. This also happened to me but I built my electrolisis chamber from plastic, so when I tried to inflate a party baloon with hidrogen I got water leaks instead.  :'(

Walter Hofmann

Quote from: rickhunter7 on June 30, 2006, 12:04:25 PM
Quote from: Walter Hofmann on June 23, 2006, 05:53:42 AM
Hi all,
I got a question for the practical guys, did anyone ever measure the output pressure with a gauge?
I used a welding gas gauge and I only can get 0.6 psi even that the cells produce what can be seen in the bubbler, but it seems that after this amount of pressure is reached the cells slows automatical down ( less bubbles)till the pressure is released and then start over with lots of big ( about 0.75 to 1 inch)bubbles. I can get a party ballon only be filled to the size of about 2 inch diameter no matter how long the cell are running.
somebody has experience the same and know why this is?
practical comments please
greetings
walt

I think this is related to why shaken sodas only burst when you open them. When you shake a soda, gas is produced, but then pressure is produced in the free space until that pressure prevents more gas from being produced, when you open the can, that pressure is released, a lot more gas is produced and you end up soaked in soda foam.
Maybe the production of gas within a liquid is inhibited by external pressure. This also happened to me but I built my electrolisis chamber from plastic, so when I tried to inflate a party baloon with hidrogen I got water leaks instead.  :'(

thanks,
my chambers are all from old hole house filter and even the bubbler, in the mean time I did figure out that the connection screws was not tight enough sealed, now after I placed a reenforced rubber washer inside and out, now I can inflate a balloon within seconds in about three to five minute it comes to the size of about 8 inches. the pressure comes up to 1 to 1 1/2 psi. The gauge was blown away after a backflash.
The only probleme what I got in comparrisson to all the picture from other guys is that no matter what kind of water I am using I allways getting black green slime. I used only H2SO4 waiting for the KOH, I also try drain cleaner with the same result. all metall parts are 316L SS. maybe somebody has an expanation .
greetings
walt