Fanner/Pseudo Solid Technology combined for overunity, LaFonte Group

[gammarayburst]

That is a way to put it. The separation occours only under given conditions. If the magnet is relatively small compared to the two elements combined, the elements will not separate. I have played quite much with magnets in different sizes, and it appears to me that the elements will separate if the magnet is wide enough. The separation will find its equilibrium, the point where the attraction between the magnet an the elements are strongest.


How this position is suddenly switched to attraction mode, is something I quite not get...


Vidar

Google "fanner for metal seperation" and read the theory of operation at the different sites.
Butch

[Low-Q]

Google "fanner for metal seperation" and read the theory of operation at the different sites.
Butch

I know about these separators, but I cannot understand how these switch from repel mode to attraction mode. When they are separated they are neutral. Maybe you had other idea about this in mind?


Vidar

[gammarayburst]

I have found that the fanner will not work if the air gap between the magnet and the elements is reduced to say .003" air gap.
This could indicate that the repulsion is due to the compression of the magnetic fields in the air gap.
Butch

[gammarayburst]

I have a video on Youtube that shows two 1" x 1" round grade 48 NIB magnets side by side, north next to north and south next to south with an iron bar on top and bottom with .005" air gap. The magnets can be moved up to each other with the slightest effort. But as you increase the air gap the magnets go into repulsion mode. The two bars are a closed loop circuit in a U shape. The magnetic field seems to fan out as it nears the iron when you increase the air gap. But if you keep the magnets up against each other the fields of the two magnets are compressed where this fanning out takes place. If you stop the air gap at say 3/8" and allow the magnets to repel they seem to stop when the fanned out field near the bar do not compress each other. This would indicate to me that the fanning effect is a result of the fields out side the magnet itself and takes place in the air gap. The two magnets behave the same as if the bars were part of a magnetic circuit with a single magnet in that circuit and the two magnets were replaced by iron cylinders the same size as the magnets.
A second condition to think about is what if two iron elements saturate and there is a large amount of field still remaining and it's path is between the two elements. Is this field available for pulling in an external element. Our test indicate that happens.
Thanks,
Butch

[gammarayburst]

Fanner dealers say that the principle behind their fanners is that the magnetic fields between the sheets of steel is compressed and that causes the sheets to seperate. They say all the sheets all have the same polarity and the field between them also does and it is compressed so it pushes them apart. Do you think they might not know what they are talking about?
Butch