Centripetal Force Yealds Over Unity

[PiCéd]

In fact I have something with the centrifugal force but unfortunately I am not sure that it work.
made the better dynamic balance (when you have dynamic balance you have static balance), approximately equalize the (three?) tensors
Have less air friction (lesser surface in the direction of the turn)
Using a power starting to the center of the axle
place a strong target on the field line of one of the largest mass of the trick and see what happens.
I don't know if a very good dynamic balance give a total mass close to 0, but I know that a moving mass in the path of a fixed mass, the colision transmitted energy is always (1/2) mv².

[tim123]

Thanks MileHigh, I get it...

BTW - I've done a Phun simulation of the eccentric motor, connected to the generator via a crank I drew (on previous page). It does not produce any overunity. The power delivered by the eccentric to the crank is exactly what's put in. Makes sense... Phun's a useful tool - it's good to clarify these things, and great to be able to test ideas without getting the saw out.

Oh well, it's back to the drawing board I suppose...

[Kator01]

Hello ,

just realized that I put the wrong link fpr pequaide. Here ist the correct link:
http://www.overunity.com/1995/free-energy-from-gravitation-using-newtonian-physic/255/

Special attention to page 8: here the graphic and the fotos in succesion show the process of what he made in his first experiment.

You may read again page 1, Reply 8 paragraph 7: it is all about conservation of momentum ( ! ) and not conservation of kinetic energy.
The momentum of the cylinder-mass is fully transfered to the steel-spheres thus increasing their kinetic energy at the end of the process when the momentum of the cylinder is zero.

I really regret that the discussion stopped in march 2009. The problem I saw in his setup was a practical one. What kind of a machine can be build based on his findings ?

Any ideas ? If so we may continue at his thead.

Long ago in 1972 a script was published ( unfortunately only available in german language ) by Otto Stein with the title : Die Zukunft der Technik ( the future of technology ) dealing with a mechanical unbalanced motor-concept
I found it today ( for those who can understand german) , reposted by a german guy living in paraguay:
http://wolfganghann.fruchtesser.de/
http://wolfganghann.fruchtesser.de/zukunft.pdf

On page 7, Abb.6 you can see that the velocity of the earth ( orbiting the sun ) is considered as additional parameter for gaining energy in accellerated systems at the earth surface-level.
One page 30 a picture of a prototyp is shown which was sucessfully tested. Energy-gain was prooven by measuring the energy used to stop the machine after accelleration.

2 Years ago I did  extensive research about the author but unfortunately without success.

So many concepts exist and somehow silently they disapear

By the way: The Wuerth-Machine ( also a german inventor)  was not a success




Regards

Kator01

[tim123]

I've figured out why Phun will never give OU - and why the sims I make in it don't feel right: It's using the standard equations for force, which don't include the *third derivative* of motion: The rate of change of acceleration.

I know from my experiences in a human body that it's relevant, so the fact that it's missing from the textbooks is, I'd like to say bizarre. Given the state of the world though, it's just normal...

So the 'centrifugal generator' I drew could well work - if it's linkage was a bit loose. It explains why pulses of power can yield OU.

Fifth Element:
http://www.halexandria.org/dward124.htm

Davis and Stine:
http://www.halexandria.org/dward138.htm

I think the thread still has legs... Might have to make it an *oscillating* centripetal force...

It's interesting that pequaide noticed OU - with a large rate of change of acceleration...

[tim123]

This looks to me like experimental proof of concept:
http://www.pureenergyblog.com/2013/08/28/1761/8502373_another-academic-paper-concluding-overunity-in-the-milkovic-two-stage-oscillator/

So, the Milkovic 2-stage oscillator is measured as OU. Imagine that the pendulum keeps going round - so is an eccentric mass - surely that should also be OU, and should produce much more power out than the simple pendulum..?

I think it's worth trying to build something. I'm putting this at #2 on my list...