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Testing the TK Tar Baby

Started by TinselKoala, March 25, 2012, 05:11:53 PM

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Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: picowatt on April 25, 2012, 03:02:02 AM
Rosemary,

I am not discussing whether current is being supplied by the FG or not.

I am only wanting to now if you understand how the MOSFET is being turned on in the left drawing, and current flows as I stated, and in the right drawing the MOSFET is turned off, and current flow ceases.

Simply yes or no, do you understand or not?

PW

I FULLY understand your argument.  It's been discussed at length over a period of 2 years by ALL OF US.  The problem is NOT my understanding your point but that you have no CLUE what it is that we're pointing out.  Either that or your refuse to acknowledge our point.

Rosemary

picowatt

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on April 25, 2012, 03:04:55 AM
I FULLY understand your argument.  It's been discussed at length over a period of 2 years by ALL OF US.  The problem is NOT my understanding your point but that you have no CLUE what it is that we're pointing out.  Either that or your refuse to acknowledge our point.

Rosemary

Rosemary,

I will indeed progress to your other points, once I know we have a common knowledge to build those discussions upon.

So again, do you understand how the MOSFET in Groundloop's drawing is being turned on (left dwg) and off (rightdwg) as the polarity of the battery in series with the 50 ohm resistor changes?

Can we agree on this?

PW

picowatt

Rosemary,

And this is not an "argument" as you say.  This relates only to very basic DC electronics and the fully defined and understood operation of a MOSFET.

So, if you want to progress with this discussion, I will stay up a bit longer and do so.

But first, and again, do you understand how the MOSFET in GL's drawing is being turned on and off, and, while on, how current flows as I described?

Simply yes or no please.  If no, I will continue to focus on this point.  If yes, I will move on to other points.

PW

MileHigh

Rosemary:

What are you, utterly lacking in imagination?  Those cartoon graphics are a comment on society, a comment on the level of discussion in this thread, and a comment about you.  You are the "unrecognized genius" that is still waiting to go into electronics kindergarten class and yet is too smart for the rest of us around here.  As a result it's going to take about 200 postings back and forth to convince you that current flows right through the function generator, which is something that you weren't even aware of when you did your months and months of testing with the NERDs and while consulting your !EXPERTS.

Admit it Rosemary, you had no clue when you wrote up your papers that current was flowing straight through the function generator.

"The many moods of the gifted visionary: - irked - vexed - crabbed - perturbed - glum - surly - snappy - peevish - grumpy - sullen - sulky - sour - deadly."  A lot of that sounds like you to me.

QuoteI thought that much was a 'given'.  Surely?  That's where this 'replication exercise' becomes a parody and has always been a parody.  And very  entertaining it is too.  Indeed.

What a cheap-ass low-brow shot that was.  To take something completely out of context and then cynically try to apply it to something else, and that something else isn't even true - that's scraping the bottom of the barrel, how cheap and low can you go?

TK's replication is a real and valid replication of your circuit, period.  Stop insulting him and his good work and stop insulting everyone's intelligence by trying to pretend it is not.  You only dig yourself deeper and deeper into a hole when you do that.

Meanwhile, you won't admit that you are wrong about current flowing through a resistor and whether there is power dissipation or not.  I have told you repeatedly that it has nothing to do with any phase measurement.  Ahh, but you are an "unrecognized genius" and you know better, don't you Rosie Posie?  That's the crux of the problem in a nutshell, isn't it?  "You know better" and that's all there is to it.  Surely?

Like I said before Rosemary, you are on the run and your ship is sinking.  Your "genius" thoughts that it must be zipons and the "binding material wanting to go back to a balanced state" that is causing the reversal in current flow are laughable nonsense.

The batteries are discharging and supplying 100% of the energy that is heating the load resistor and the MOSFET array.  That is an absolute fact which will be proven by your own testing if in fact you are competent enough to do it.

The LEDs of DOOM and the contributors to this thread will seal the fate of your nonsensical circuit.

MileHigh

poynt99

GL,

Your second paragraph in the diagram is not correct.

There will be no power added to the circuit in the scenario shown. What you have there is simply an isolated VGS bias that turns ON the right MOSFET. There isn't even a return path for the FG source, so it can't provide any power to the circuit.
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