Testing the TK Tar Baby

[TinselKoala]

And the fact that it does not pass current to the circuit is something you have STILL not addressed.  You have simply 'ASSUMED' that it does - based on what now appears to be MileHigh's explanation.  I keep telling you.  You'd do better to base your 'belief' on known physics.  Right now you're assuming that current flow can defy our inductive laws.  Not sure that's entirely correct.

Your statement is entirely a LIE, that's what it is.
I have addressed this issue MANY TIMES in these posts and in video demonstrations. EVERY OTHER POSTER on this thread, people who have far more demonstrated knowledge, skill and experience than you do.... they all agree.

I KEEP TELLING YOU  that "known physics" exactly explains the functioning of your circuit in all respects INCLUDING that in a series arrangement of power supplies CURRENT WILL FLOW through them all.
"Inductive laws" have nothing to do with DC CURRENT FLOW. All "inductive laws" incorporate the TIME RATE OF CHANGE of current, magnetic field, voltage, etc. THEY DO NOT APPLY WITH DC CURRENTS which are supplied by your series arrangement of power sources. Your OSCILLATIONS are an inductive phenomenon but that has NOTHING TO DO with your garbled interpretation, and the oscillations are most certainly powered by the power sources of your circuit. The mosfet gate is partially charged during each single oscillation period and the drain-source channel partly opens and current flows. This is NOT an inductive phenomenon, it is a FIELD EFFECT. It has nothing to do with "inducing" currents anywhere. The oscillations are indeed "induced" by inductive interactions among the stray wiring and rat's nest layout...  but the mosfets are switched by ELECTRIC FIELDS applied to their gates. The time rate of change of these fields are unimportant except as they affect the switching speed of the mosfet. It is electric charge MAGNITUDE that determines whether and how much a mosfet "switches" on. The magnitude of the electric charge on the gate varies during the oscillations but the degree of switching is a FIRST ORDER effect related only to the magnitude of the charge on the gate, NOT HOW FAST OR SLOW IT CHANGES, a second order relation. If the gate charge varies FAST ENOUGH (RF, by definition AC) then its capacitance CAN AND DOES pass substantial current to the drain-source main current pathway... and this too is NOT an inductive effect, but a capacitative one having to do with ELECTRIC FIELDS which you do not understand at all.

Therefore, again you LIE, by misrepresentation and claiming things that are not true, both regarding my position and the behaviour of your circuit.


NOW, Poser, show something besides a bunch of word salad..... DO YOUR TESTING, and demonstrate your claims.

Of course you will not do this... because you CANNOT.


What is the IsoTech GFG 324 function generator? Where can I find information about this FG?

[TinselKoala]

Can or does current pass to or from the function generator (FG) in the NERD circuit? Evidence from the simulation indicates that it does. See attached.

Thanks for posting that. Evidence from the real hardware indicates that it does, as well, as I have shown.

But you know... simulations are only good if they SUPPORT Ainslie's points. If they refute them, they are obviously wrong. Current physics, you know. Ainslie is always right, and if you think Ainslie is wrong, you must be faking your sim or demos, because Ainslie is always right.

Do YOU know what a IsoTech GFG 324 is? 

[poynt99]

Do YOU know what a IsoTech GFG 324 is?

No I don't. I researched it long ago when I first saw the listed model number. I came up empty-handed in terms of any information on this model, nor could I find any reference to that model number at all. It does not appear to exist...at least not on the web.

[poynt99]

Here is reference to that discussion back in January.

http://www.overunity.com/11675/another-small-breakthrough-on-our-nerd-technology/msg310454/#msg310454

[TinselKoala]

No I don't. I researched it long ago when I first saw the listed model number. I came up empty-handed in terms of any information on this model, nor could I find any reference to that model number at all. It does not appear to exist...at least not on the web.

Once again we agree-- our results are essentially identical. The IsoTech GFG 324 appears to exist only in Table 1 of "paper" 1, in Ainslie's mind, and nowhere else. I would be very happy to be proven wrong on this point, because I want to see a schematic of this FG that she claims will not put current through a resistance in a closed circuit.

IsoTech appears to rebrand Instek equipment, though. The FG used in the demo seems to be one of the InsTek GFG 8215 series, low-cost (200 dollar price point) and perfectly ordinary in terms of offset and input impedance and ability to work in series with other power supplies.

http://www.tequipment.net/InstekGFG8215A.html

So... is it possible that the  "IsoTech GFG 324" is some kind of YET UNCORRECTED ERROR in Ainslie's draft sketches of her experimental report?