Testing the TK Tar Baby

[picowatt]

She tried to measure the voltage drop across the load, one time and one time only. She did it with the other scope leads connected up as normally. She also chastised me severely for "claiming" to have measured across the load, since she had such a hard time when she tried it. Of course, when I measure the voltage drop across the load, as I sometimes do.... I have the wit to disconnect the other scope probes, or to use an isolated differential voltage probe, or a scope with isolated signal references like a Fluke 199 (or 123) ScopeMeter.
I believe that this is how she damaged her borrowed LeCroy oscilloscope and had to purchase it and have it repaired and calibrated. The BNC scope probe ground connections likely welded themselves to the input jacks on the scope itself.

I think she did this by having one of the battery leads disconnected, making the scope probe ground lead connections, then hooking up the battery lead back to the battery.

This was one result:

Of course one could just use two channels and two probes, one probe at each end of Rload and measure the diff.

An isolated DC voltmeter is aother possibility.

PW

[TinselKoala]

Of course one could just use two channels and two probes, one probe at each end of Rload and measure the diff.

An isolated DC voltmeter is aother possibility.

PW

Yes, that's right. One end of Rload is of course the Vbatt signal, and the other end of Rload would be the mosfet common drain signal. On a scope with four input channels and the ability to display four traces on the screen, I might have monitored VBatt, VDrain, VCSR and VFGRed,
then used the math trace to display either the computed ((Vbatt-Vdrain)/Rload) for the current through the load, or her "Vbatt x Vcsr" that she uses, swapping them into and out of the 4th screen display channel in lieu of a live displayed measurement of one of the parameters.

But then, what do I know about drawing pretty pictures on DSOs. I am concerned with displaying relevant data in usable form.

[sparks]

    Couldn't we all save some time and just insert a capacitor in place of the battery and put this "baby to rest".  This appears to be the down and dirty way of proving overunity like effects.  It is quite simple to parallel a capacitor across the scource and a two pole breaker switch.  Open the switch disconnect the battery and see how long the lightbulb remains lit.  If it runs for hours on end it is a go.  No hours of computational circuit analyses and such.  Reaffirmation of Faraday's laws of induction are beginning to become tedious.  TK and Picowatt have clearly demonstrated their skills of the trade of electrical engineering and circuit design and analyses.  Hell lets move on to bigger and better things.

[picowatt]

    Couldn't we all save some time and just insert a capacitor in place of the battery and put this "baby to rest".  This appears to be the down and dirty way of proving overunity like effects.  It is quite simple to parallel a capacitor across the scource and a two pole breaker switch.  Open the switch disconnect the battery and see how long the lightbulb remains lit.  If it runs for hours on end it is a go.  No hours of computational circuit analyses and such.  Reaffirmation of Faraday's laws of induction are beginning to become tedious.  TK and Picowatt have clearly demonstrated their skills of the trade of electrical engineering and circuit design and analyses.  Hell lets move on to bigger and better things.

Sparks,

Of course not!  She attempted this at one time, and when the cap ran down, she created yet another new theory that stated the "potential" of the battery was required (not necessarily any current mind you, just potential).

Of course, the cap discharging indicated something else to most everyone else...

PW

[TinselKoala]

    Couldn't we all save some time and just insert a capacitor in place of the battery and put this "baby to rest".  This appears to be the down and dirty way of proving overunity like effects.  It is quite simple to parallel a capacitor across the scource and a two pole breaker switch.  Open the switch disconnect the battery and see how long the lightbulb remains lit.  If it runs for hours on end it is a go.  No hours of computational circuit analyses and such.  Reaffirmation of Faraday's laws of induction are beginning to become tedious.  TK and Picowatt have clearly demonstrated their skills of the trade of electrical engineering and circuit design and analyses.  Hell lets move on to bigger and better things.

Done, and done. Long ago, relatively speaking.

Ainslie accepts that my Tar Baby is a replication of her circuit, except when it does things she doesn't like (and hasn't tested her circuit doing).

She has of course made the claim that the circuit won't run on capacitors because the oscillations collapse. Duh. The Altoid circuit, which .99 designed as a single-mosfet oscillator showing negative mean power product runs for nearly ten minutes on a 2-F capacitor charged to 5.5 volts, and the Tar Baby itself runs for a significant time in full Load Heating, Negative Mean Power mode using a suitably sized capacitor bank _alone_ just as you suggest.

Here is the proof, in several more videos that frighten Ainslie so much that she refuses to acknowledge their existence nor what they demonstrate. She has implied that rechargeable batteries are necessary to get the full effect that she claims... but she knows nothing of electrolytic capacitors: that they are, for example, the ultimate "rechargeable battery" and use ion chemistry in almost the same manner as a true battery does.

Altoid: No Battery Required:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZaPnj1Ox4Y

Tar Baby and the Capacitors from Beyond:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-Awd8_Xro0

For some people, this would be enough. For Ainslie, it means it's time to move the goalposts AGAIN.