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[profitis]

how can step 1 force anything unless step 1 is answered and then debated @sarkeizen.the way you make it out is as if i have to force you to answer before a conclusion can be forced .youre hardly playing your own game fair by refusing to participate in it.and seriously,must you always deflect attention away from your incompetency onto my english when you feel cornered? Cmon man,just answer step 1 please @sarkeizen im begging (me begging you to enter into a situation where you will be totaly cornered)

[sarkeizen]

how can step 1 force anything

i) Socrates is a man; all men are mortal
ii) Socrates is mortal.

Step i) forces step ii).

the way you make it out is as if i have to force you to answer before a conclusion can be forced .youre hardly playing your own game fair by refusing to participate in it

No I'm being perfectly fair.  Asking someone to pretend something true is false isn't fair.  Oh hey...that's you.

Putting it in baby-talk for you:  If step 1 is necessary but not NECESSARILY TRUE then your argument goes nowhere. 

and seriously,must you always deflect attention away from your incompetency onto my english when you feel cornered?

Actually I talk about your horrible English when I'm cornered and when I'm not.  When I'm hungry and when I'm not.  When I'm happy and when I'm not.  See I pretty much think anytime is a good time to talk about someone who has such deliberately ridiculous language.   Besides why are you so defensive about it?  I simply asked why are you affecting such poor language?  One would think if one wants to be understood one would make an effort to be clear.  You clearly are making an effort to be unclear.

[profitis]

superman is a man.not all men are mortal.socrates is a man.socrates may not be mortal. you see,i unforced your conclusion by PARTICIPATING in the debate @sarkeizen.it takes at least 2 people to debate an alleged forced conclusion before the conclusion can be forced.the outcome consensus between those 2 people determines truth.2 billion people believe in god @sarkeizen.another 2 billion dont.which 2 billion is correct and real.they have to DEBATE it out to find truth.concentration cells are logic.a hydrogen concentration cell is a hydrogen concentration cell.a hydrogen concentration cell is logic. You see,your formula works for me too @sarkeizen so lets debate it yes? My english is fine,its your competency for debate that is highly suspect. 

[sarkeizen]

superman is a man.not all men are mortal.socrates is a man.socrates may not be mortal. you see,i unforced your conclusion

Nope.  Are you really not getting it, or is this just more trolling?

My statement i) FORCES statement ii).  That is *given* i) then ii) is necessary and unavoidable.  Your agreement in i) is irrelevant (at this point).  However in your very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very stupid case.  There are so many potential outcomes that your statement i) forces nothing.  Hence even if I were to agree it demonstrates nothing.

Hence it's not a formal logical argument.  So regardless of what it's based on it can't make your point.   So if your "step 1" is NECESSARY then your argument is invalid.

Try again troll-boy. Please attempt to be less stupid.

My english is fine

I was just asking an honest question.  Why do you deliberately make your English so very poor?  It's like being in a meeting with someone wearing a fake moustache.  Everyone knows it's fake and makes the wearer look stupid.  I just thought it would be an interesting story.

[profitis]

your statement example forces nothing but a year-long debate and a noddy-badge @sarkeizen.my statement example creates a set borderline for the rationale of the whole argument man,be realistic now.quit fooling around and launch the debate with a simple yes or no @sarkeizen.your graduation from 2nd law lawyer to kindergarten english master happened very suddenly,like ever since i threw step 1 on the table.did anyone else notice this? All of the audience yes.co-incidence?nope.