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@sarkeizen.do you think it is logical for a science teacher to ask a student to build a hydrogen concentration cell and a copper concentration cell for exams..

[sarkeizen]

@sarkeizen.do you think it is logical for a science teacher to ask a student to build a hydrogen concentration cell and a copper concentration cell for exams..

See I knew you were faking all the lousy English.  Why bother?  Do you really like wearing the fake moustache so much?

Anyway...If what you wrote is step 1 and it forces nothing, then it's not a formal logical argument.  You agreed to this remember?  I can show you where you said that you would create a series of steps where each one FORCES the next.

If it forces something, you should be able to say what it forces.  However since you can't this seems just another way you are attempting to avoid the question at hand.

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@sarkeizen.it forces your COMPETENCY.it forces our ability to determine your ability to understand what is about to be quoted.its no use for me to quote e.g. 'ducks lay eggs in winter'directly from a textbook then you go and tell me that that is insufficient as proof.

[sarkeizen]

@sarkeizen.it forces your COMPETENCY

You said yourself, that it can be answered yes or no and that from there the answer is debated.  Right?
Any question which can be answered in both directions can not force anything.  That is the definition of "force" that only one outcome is possible.  So again, you are wrong. 

.it forces our ability to determine your ability to understand what is about to be quoted

i) A cite is what is requested, not a quote.  There are at least twenty posts on that subject alone.  About three give you an example of how to do it and explain what makes it necessary.

ii) If only one question was necessary to absolutely determine someones ability to read an electrochemistry text with 100% accuracy (0 false positives and 0 false negatives) then there of course would be some published research on this subject (how would you determine this otherwise?).   So where is it?  So while you may like to *pretend* that this is true.  Clearly it's not 100% true (according to you only 99.9% of scientists would agree) hence it can not force anything.  Anything less than 100% is not forcing.

iii) We both know you have no intention of citing anything.  You have had about a hundred opportunities to do so and you haven't.  The way you could prove me wrong is by actually citing something relevant.

e.g. 'ducks lay eggs in winter'directly from a textbook then you go and tell me that that is insufficient as proof.

Like a lot of things it would depend on what is actually meant - which is why a cite is needed.  Many, if not all ducks lay eggs when it is warm.  So the question would be one of what is meant by "winter" - i.e. time of year or "in the winter in the wild" or "in the winter in this part of the world" and what is meant by "ducks" i.e. "All ducks", "some ducks" and what is meant by "lay" i.e. "can lay", "do lay".

However with a cite it might be possible to determine which of those things is meant.

Anyway, since you agree that nothing is forced by this statement (your own words say this exact thing).  Is there any chance you're going to get off your lazy ass and do some work here?

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can i ask you a question @sarkeizen?