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[sarkeizen]

Agreed.
So, 1W continuous from a device the size of an iPod. Not sure we specified the iPod type, let's say an iPod Nano (PH could, apparently squeak many amps from a few mm square....in theory!).
You would need to send details of the construction and a prototype so I know there is no battery inside.....and show it working!

.......can you suggest a deadline? I would suggest it coincide with the earth shattering Hardcastle news in August (2014). If you can't deliver in this month (or year) then you send me GBP5k. Hey, it's 50:50 right, you either win 150k or lose 5k - not a bad coin toss!

Since there's no chance of profitis failing this would clearly be a good deal for him.  Also if he accepts the bet he'll be at least be ahead of that welcher Philip.

[profitis]

A normal zinc battery the size of an ipod produces a watt @madebymonkeys there's no way a karpen of the same size can give a watt.a super- karpen pile will be between 0.5-1watt in a 0.5-1liter size and all piles give power in bursts depending on the power draw.I'm thinking of making this thing to power something useful that doesn't require too much power, like a tv remote.what do you think of an cheap electronic component that can be permanently integrated into the circuitry of all tv remotes @madebymonkeys?? No more batteries required for any tv remote in the world,ever again?? Is that worth your prize? I will video the karpen- component being shortcircuited for 30 mins,then shoved into the tv remote and spontaneously chargeup and work like new.whatdoyathink?the component will be impossible to permanently flatten or self-discharge during non -use

[profitis]

As a bonus,if u hand over the prize for the tv remote,you get to own half the patent rights of that component @madebymonkeys,whatdoyathink?(There's no patent on it yet)

[profitis]

Or a kitchen clock @madebymonkeys.no more batteries required for the kitchen clock anymore round the world with this filthy-cheap component.

[Madebymonkeys]

A normal zinc battery the size of an ipod produces a watt @madebymonkeys there's no way a karpen of the same size can give a watt.a super- karpen pile will be between 0.5-1watt in a 0.5-1liter size and all piles give power in bursts depending on the power draw.I'm thinking of making this thing to power something useful that doesn't require too much power, like a tv remote.what do you think of an cheap electronic component that can be permanently integrated into the circuitry of all tv remotes @madebymonkeys?? No more batteries required for any tv remote in the world,ever again?? Is that worth your prize? I will video the karpen- component being shortcircuited for 30 mins,then shoved into the tv remote and spontaneously chargeup and work like new.whatdoyathink?the component will be impossible to permanently flatten or self-discharge during non -use

Hang on a sec, you originally said you could  power an iPod indefinitely - I thought we just had to decide which iPod and what indefinitely means. Of course, we know what indefinitely means so let's put an arbitrary timeframe on the problem. I thought a month was sensible?