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[Madebymonkeys]

Or a kitchen clock @madebymonkeys.no more batteries required for the kitchen clock anymore round the world with this filthy-cheap component.

What's the estimated price per Wh or mWh?
The price has a big effect on viability, regardless of whether it runs forever.
Fitting a $0.10 battery to a kitchen clock and having it run for a year is fine for most people, the clock will probably be replaced after a couple of years anyhow :-)
Fitting a $1.00 ever lasting widget in the same item is overkill and, depending on whats required to make the widget, a waste of resources.

The same issue applies to TV remotes etc. A couple of AAA batteries will run mine for years and the cost is negligible. They are even recyclable once discharged.

Cost and size are everything. Something the size of a 10kg butane tank which can only provide a Watt is clearly not viable even if it runs indefinitely. Also, something this large will be costly to ship and also likely to have lots of materials - some of which may be expensive or 'nasty'.

Have a go at putting together a BOM for a 1W device and costing it. If it's more than the equivalent primary or Li-Ion cells then the outlook is bleak.

[Madebymonkeys]

As a bonus,if u hand over the prize for the tv remote,you get to own half the patent rights of that component @madebymonkeys,whatdoyathink?(There's no patent on it yet)

That's a completely different proposition to the one you gave originally ie. power an iPod indefinitely.
There is no problem to solve with a TV remote.

£150k for half the patent rights to IP which, by your own admission, is in plenty of textbooks isn't a clever move. If what you said was true then there will be prior art all over the place and a complete lack of novelty ie. no patentablity.

[profitis]

There are no patents that I'm aware of in existence other than the karpen original @madebymonkeys.claiming priority won't be a problem because the playing field is quite huge.the winners will be high power smallish size at low cost, high power smallish size at high cost but big demand,low power smallish size at low cost but big demand. The ipods I'm talking about are the shuffle type ipods with a tiny lcd display or no display at all in other words the power all goes into the earphones.those ones require power in the 20-50 milliwatt range so its kind of the same thing as powering a pocket radio. If I can get it to power such ipods or radios CONTINOUSLY would that be ok? I'l squish it into a reasonable size and reasonable cost.radios and ipods are pleasure based items that people(especially women) generaly don't want to crankup with a dynamo or shove in sunlight I would think.

[profitis]

If I could get hold of a tinselkoala(electrogenius) by my side it would be easy to adapt the radio or ipod electronics TO the battery at maximum efficiency. Only a few milliwatts are really needed for a good sound system.this type of battery would best be directly sold as an electronic component,like a transformer or capacitor with varying output values on its label.that would give scope for radio or ipod,clock or watch,remotes,switches etc etc manufacturers to adapt to the battery.

[sarkeizen]

shuffle type ipods with a tiny lcd display or no display at all

Only the shuffle has no lcd, even the nano has all sorts of bells and whistles which would take you over the 40mw range...and how big is this?  If the 1W model is 1L?