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[Madebymonkeys]

Hi All,


Not sure that I appreciate the sort of snooping on my affairs re patents but let me simply say an international patent application was filed months ago citing the prior dates of 2 provisional applications.

It's all in the public domain - the unfortunate thing about patents is that they give your competitors a heads-up as to what you are working on and can give them up to 36months to create their own novel patent. There are options to limit the application info which is made public (limiting it to the abstract) until the patent is granted (this can help negate the risk to some degree) - your patent attorney will know all about this.

There have been delays caused by many things, I am not going to parade them here but they have nothing to do with the Quenco itself, they were matters beyond my control of an administrative, clerical and contracts nature. We have but one hurdle to overcome and tomorrow I expect to be given the green light to conclude construction of the current Quenco device batch.


Those that think my estimates have been silly do not know the difficult road I have been on, the number of times people have broken their word or the immense technical challenges that only became apparent when we tried to do things at a scale of less than 3nm. I actually think we have done remarkably well to be now confident of getting to the end of this stage over the next week or so.


Those that want to snipe go ahead, I am not the slightest bit perturbed by such conduct, I after all have the advantage of knowing the facts, the skeptics merely want to posture and poke fun at people doing things they cannot.

I don't know if that's aimed at me but I don't want to 'posture and poke fun', I don't believe that I have either - I just want to believe this is real but there is no evidence to suggest it is, unless you can offer some?

I will not answer the barbs that pop up here, i will say thankd for the moral support from the kinder people here.

I think most people, deep down, are kind. I also think that most people can be easily blinded by extravagant claims (and hope) unless they are from a technical background in which case they will question everything. Questioning and providing proof are 'par for the course' in the field you are currently working in.
Basically, if you are going to claim things like 10kW from a 1cm tile you'd better be ready to prove it. Or at least show a tile of any size powering something other than a DMM. Or even demonstrate just how it's possible (on a technical level, not just abstract comments).

If you don't want to be asked questions, provide proof, wake up skeptics etc then its probably best to just keep quiet about your developments!

Quenco will change the World but I admit to being a bit ambitious to think I oculd do it all on my own, I now ahve the support of a number of experts from stanford and elsewhere, I now have support from many parts of the World, I now have quite a large team who are dedicated to making all this become a commercial reality as soon as humanly possible.

When I started in business it was a real struggle to 'let go' and get help, eventually I did and the company now has a number of staff and is flourishing. It's good to get help - nobody knows everything
Its hard to share a dream sometimes.

I admit to being too optimistic re delivery but if I had not set myself and others a goal we would find that the progress would have been slower, it is an obvious fact that this sort of work is impossilbe to accurately estimate for what seems simple has turned out to be a test at all levels. I feel though that when I read of other universities taking years to get to only half of what a quenco is then we have made incredible progress unfunded by fat government grants.

Don't rule out grants and funding from VCs or Angels. Contracts lawyers are expensive (my most recent one was just over £250 per hour) and you're likely to require some expensive engineers to get this off the ground......companies will be reluctant to license a patent without proof that the technology actually works as claimed and is manufacturable, this would require working models. Even Stanford won't be there to help forever, unless they take a stake in your company in return for use of equipment and some engineering resource? A percentage of something is better than 100% of nothing!
Mind you, I don't know how deep your pockets are

This really is cutting edge work to deliver a device in such an advanced form, just think of the amn years almost every device requires, we had just me then a few dedicated scientists out of Australia and not a few more at stanford and elsewhere, in total perhaps a few man years, in nano technology that is really very little time.


I think it is strange that so little attention has been given to Quenco in comparison to the pseudo science of Steorn and such but in some ways it is good as it has allowed us to progress with little interference.

People were drawn into the Steorn story by extravagant claims of abundant free energy and talk of changing the world. The reality was that they set dates for launches, missed them, set more dates, missed them, provided no proof of concept etc. Steorn even had some qualified engineers and scientists give the product a thumbs-up!

This may sound harsh but your Quenco story matches the one from Steorn fairly accurately so far. Once bitten, twice shy....as the saying goes. And you wonder why there are skeptics

If Steorn had stepped back (before getting all excited and talking about changing the world with magnets and acrylic), made a proof of concept and tested it properly, managed expectations, they wouldn't have ended up as they did........well, actually they probably still would have ended up as they did but their heads may have been held a little higher!
That said, Steorn did spin-out some side products as a result of their research into perpetual motion so all was not lost for them.

If things don't work out for Quenco there is every chance you may generate some saleable IP in the field of nanoscale manufacturing methods or 'some other stuff', who knows?

Anyway this is my last update before the launch.


Bye

Good luck, I hope it pans out well - don't be a Steorn, reel in the 'change the world' talk until you can actually prove it (that's genuinely good advice!)

MBM

[Philip Hardcastle]

My answer is simple, Quenco is 100% genuine, it has nothing in common with all the BS claims of Bedini, Steorn, Peswiki.


All those that have engaged with me privately and have an assigned or reserved licence I trust are 100% happy with me.



I am sick and tired of being asked to prove my honesty and I do not see why I have to prove a single damn thing to any skeptic.


So if posting here requires me to prove something then I simply will not.


Similarly I have pulled down the website.


I will now make a single statement;




Quenco is 100% real proved physics, the implementation at the scale of 2nm is very hard to do, we are still working on it.


Over the past year a lot of very good people at Australian and US research institutions have worked on this.


There are now a number or commercial partners who are fully behind commercialising the Quenco.


I have spent a small fortune and a chunk of my life doing this for the benefit of all.


Call me a liar or scammer in the same breath as you mention Steorn or Sterling or Rossi if you want, but you know I am not.


All I have done is try to share with you all what I could, some have appreciated that, some have ridiculed me.


A working device in the hands of an independent and reputable testing authority is the only acceptable proof.


I will do exactly that, I intend to ask the famous Australian Skeptic Dick Smith to do the testing.


Just for fun let me tell you that he offered me $1Million for a 5Kw power source, I offered him a $20M Tesla powered by Quenco. He declined, whereas he offered Rossi $1M and Rossi declined. Of course I admit I was a little ahead of myself but also in our communication was that I offered to pay Dick a penalty of some thousands of dollars if I failed to deliver, note he was not required to pay any deposit. Of course you can ask Dick if this is true, and you can surmise from such that I am genuine, but of course you cannot know if I am deluded, only my commercial partners have enough knowledge to make such a judgement.


I contacted Tesla but they refused to sell me a car without batteries.


Anyhow that really is my last comment here.


Thanks for the interesting comments.

[hollander]

...
Quenco is 100% real proved physics, the implementation at the scale of 2nm is very hard to do, we are still working on it.
...

Hmm, there is a thing that makes me crazy with you. How can you say that it is "100% real proved physics" if you do not have yet any single working prototype?

I would say: "Quenco is a 100% You-want-it-to-work device." Phil, one thing is our wish, another thing is the real world.

[lumen]

Quenco falls in the same line as Hot Nuclear Fusion, It can be mathematically proven to work, It can be shown to work on a small scale,(less out than in).
Yet do we have Hot Fusion Reactors?
Quenco is not a matter of if...., it is a matter of when!

The if in Quenco, comes only from design issues and not the concept of the device. The Hot Fusion Reactor has gone through many different design issues and is likely to never become a reality even though the process is known to work.

Quenco will become reality once the required design becomes physically possible to build. This could require a new step or process, but is still far more likely to be achieved than a working process in Hot Fusion and Quenco would also be the better source for future energy.

[neptune]

@Philip. I am very disappointed the you let the sceptics get to you. I have no doubt whatever that you are doing what you are doing with the very best of intentions. I am surprised that you did not forsee the situation that you find yourself in. Remember, that a forum has many more readers than writers, and a lot of people here, although silent, are fully supportive of what you are working on. I wish you every success, and hope we shall hear from you very soon.