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[MileHigh]

So unfortunaely Quentron is not delivering on the "promised delayed date" after December 1st was promised as the "real drop-dead date."

I am not surprised at all.  Lumen and a few others around here can eat crow.  Lumen even had the gall to upload a picture of "crow pie" about three weeks ago to "shame" the skeptics and I posted back that you shouldn't count your chickens before they were hatched.

This whole thing has more holes in it than a Swiss cheese and I could write up a long posting detailing them but I won't bother.

All I can do is ask the fanboys to do some soul searching.  Why can't you ask some polite technical questions of these dubious free energy promoters or politely ask for some evidence of prototypes, preliminary test data, whatever?  Instead all that you do is cheer and otherwise you are mute in anticipation.  If any of you had the desire and will to ask Philip some basic reasonable questions the cracks in the foundation would have started to show right away.

MileHigh

[steeltpu]

You are simply and completely wrong.It's not a question of patience period.  Either Philip is a competent manager or he isn't.  If you want me believe that Quenco really works then that forces me to believe he is poor at managing this endeavour.

Philip hasn't updated the Quenco site because he has no functioning quencos.  It's very likely that he can't have them as any Maxwell's Demon device is essentially a computing device.  The fact that Philip maintains that there is some 2LOT hole at the quantum level not only breaks Lord Kelvins interpretation of 2LOT it would also likely violates algorithmic information theory....and of course if TWO people think something it MUST be true.

I'm here because this is a place Phil posts and I think it's worth mentioning how long and hard he's pushed the "it's almost there button".  Believe if you want in Quencoism but you also must believe that Phil is a lousy manager...or cook up some special definition of "good manager" which includes his poor practices.

and how many cutting edge never-before-done earth changing projects have you accomplished to be such a bloody expert on how things are done and how long it takes?  U show up here on Dec. 7th for first time and your first post is trying to shred somebodies reputation? 

U aren't fooling anyone here.  u are nothing but an f***ing troll with bad intentions and much of what you said is outright lies.   

i'd expect a new technology like this to take 5 to 10 years to be in production.   right now we are being asked to wait until feb. 2013 for a product release and 6 more months for it to be in full production.   i think that is amazing if it happens that fast.   details are up on quentron.com with good explanations.   i fully expected it wouldn't happen before end of this year. 

he says all technical details have been resolved.  the only thing it requires now is patience.

[sarkeizen]

and how many cutting edge never-before-done earth changing projects have you accomplished to be such a bloody expert on how things are done and how long it takes?

That's the point about things which have never been done before.  You don't know how long it takes.  So it is bad management to say you do.  Philip says he does - frequently - and has been wrong every. single. time. For well over a year.

It would be different if you had a working part made through the same process then scaling up would, in theory be possible to determine how long something would take.  However even *then* companies often miss the mark.   So you build your schedules with the necessary slack time.  Philip, even if he had a working part of this kind, which he probably doesn't doesn't  do this.  He is a *bad* manager.

U show up here on Dec. 7th

11th.  Not 7th.

for first time and your first post is trying to shred somebodies reputation?

So I'm trying to keep score.  Is that one vote for my post on the 11th for being my first and two votes for me being someone else who has posted before? Or are you being ironic and that's three (poorly informed) votes for me being someone else?

much of what you said is outright lies.

I notice that you forgot to mention exactly *what* you think is a lie.

i'd expect a new technology like this to take 5 to 10 years to be in production.

Then it's bad to tell people it will be just a few months...and it's even worse to keep telling people that each time you don't make your deadline right?  Just like Philip.

right now we are being asked to wait until feb. 2013

Which is exactly what he said last year, at just about this time.

details are up on quentron.com with good explanations.

Only if you haven't been listening to him.  According to the last site update it sounded an awful lot like he was expecting a shipment of quencos with barium emitters.  According to him it takes very little to package or use the device (don't you remember when he was talking about using them as hearing aid batteries? He said this.).  At the very least it would be possible to wire one by hand.

Now if I'm wrong there (or Philip is telling less than the truth) and the quencos do require significant finishing.  Then any manager that wasn't horrible would have booked that equipment in advance rather than miss an INTERNATIONAL PRODUCT LAUNCH date.  If you didn't then you know right well you probably wouldn't have made the date.    If you know that you won't hit a product launch and you keep telling people you will - you are a *bad* manager.  Today (or yesterday if he was running on ACT) was the *PRODUCT LAUNCH* that means there is PRODUCT that is usable in some sense of the term. 

Evidence suggests that Philip either is a terrible manager or he simply does not have functioning Quencos.

i fully expected it wouldn't happen before end of this year. 

So did I but Philip said otherwise.

he says all technical details have been resolved.  the only thing it requires now is patience.

So far Philip has shown himself to be an abysmal manager.  Why would you take the word of a bad manager on an issue which is primarily about production.  Feel free to accept his opinion as a (geo) physicist or an EE or whatever.

[trim12]

Oh well we will have to wait for February to come around, lets hope all the teething troubles will be ironed out by then.

[sarkeizen]

Oh well we will have to wait for February to come around, lets hope all the teething troubles will be ironed out by then.

...and if not...when do you stop believing?

Also consider that Philip says: "For those waiting for this to become a reality all I can say is that I have no doubt we will succeed in February"

No doubt...a complete absence of uncertainty.  If he doesn't make it in Feb will you at least admit he knows zero about managing delivery schedules?