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[Bruce_TPU]

Uh ever read the rest of that verse?  "and to keep oneself unstained by the world." perhaps presuming to judge things that you aren't really in a position to might come under that heading.  Your exegesis is kind of crappy as well.

Haha!  The Lord bring peace into your life.  Please continue to judge me and spew your exegetical prowess.

Please provide your evidence for 'defamation' or an apology.  Because accusations of defamation are also defamation.

Your claim that Philip has previously defrauded on payments of rewards, not once but on other occasions, thus calling him a fraud, cheat and liar by implication.  (You hypocrite)

Actually what I'm saying is that in terms of "building" something.  Which you're constantly on about.  The one useful thing with regard to this discussion is something you are apparently incapable of building.  A cogent argument.  Feel free to try that some year.

I have ZERO interest in presenting a cogent argument to you about Philips tech.  I choose to be patient and wait to see if anything materializes or not.   

Except that I haven't defamed him. 

Self delusional and doesn't listen.  As state above.  Reread it please even though I know it won't stick in your arrogant brain.

Your defaming me apparently is okay in your world.In my world respect is earned anyone who hasn't earned it doesn't get it.  If you want to call that "disrespect" then that's your deal. 

I have no respect for someone who continually is out to assasinate the character of another both by word and implication.  The forum members judge between me and thee.

On the other hand you give respect away for free as long as you think someone is "building" something (but that doesn't include building logical constructs like arguments)I haven't lied.  Please provide evidence or an apology. 

Yes, as long as someone is following their dream, building something, and not just passing wind, they have my respect.  PC hero's do not.

Since you're defaming me now.

If the truth defames you, that I can not help you with that.

No, which is why I haven't done it...you on the other hand seem to think it's okay.  Don't worry you're not the first Christian hypocrite and you won't be the last.

Please continue to interject Christianity into it.  I take a stand for what I feel is right and just.  And your character assasination of Philip is disgusting.  Evil triumps when good men do nothing.  And defamation and character assasination fit that category for me.  And to the readers, this is the only reason I have wasted (and it is a waste) this much time trying to talk sense to a rock.

If you read Philip - reading! Bruce_TPU should try it! - he left because OU wouldn't disclose information to him and now he says he's going to attempt to bully them into it.   Which doesn't make me think of Philip as a very big man IMHO. 

And you think you are a "big man"?  You are a very small man.  IMHO

Prior to that Philip didn't even acknowledge me directly -

The route we all should have gone.  He is indeed smarter than the rest of us.

except to make one spurious accusation.You seem to think a lot of your opinions.  Not sure why.

Hmm.. that is a tough one...  Let's see...  Oh!  Got it!  Because I think your defamation and character assasination is evil and wrong.  Yep, that is it in a nut shell!

Yes, your beliefs about someone else can't possibly be in error. 

It is one thing to question the tech and a whole other to question the motives, integrity, etc. of an individual that you know nothing about. 

Very good way of thinking for a scientist.Outside of responding to your defamatory remarks, I've been posting with MBM, TK, lumen and forcefield concerning my views about what makes Philips ideas wrong.  I get that most of what I post is beyond your abilities. 

I am not interested honestly, in much of anything you have to say, right wrong or indifferent.  You have brought me to that point, probably about 60 posts ago.

That's okay but please stop pretending that you're not the cause of most of the exchanges between us.So Bruce_TPU who has posted nothing of merit. 

I stopped posting on this thread, until you throw my name up there in one of your long winded trolling platitudes.   Feel free to go back and check.

Almost all of his posts can be summed up as "Hush and be patient"

Yes, so true.  Unfortunately it was not heeded.

, "You are a troll"

I speak the truth and lie not.  You are a troll.

and "Yay Philip". 


Yea Philip!  Be encouraged Philip and don't let the likes of this fellow dissuade you.  You have a lot to be admired.  You use your real name on this forum.  You have been here for some time.  You had and followed your dream.  Respect.   

Is saying that someone who is contributing to the thread (me) is hijacking it.  Perhaps you might remove that log from your eye before attempting to remove my mote... 

Yes, I would agree, I too have wasted too much bandwidth on you in this thread.  I won't post to you again if you leave my name out of your dour comments.  Even though I doubt you could do that, for that is part of what you do.

So therefore lack of respect in your world is okay too.  Given any thought to actually posting something that was internally consistent? Just sayin'Some things that you might not be able to see because of that huge tree in your eye...

Not concerned with your judgments nor perspectives on either my logs or trees.  Just sayin'. . . .


I've provided some decision theory concerning expectations on Philip as well as a mathematical basis for modeling it.
I've provided sound reasons as to why a MD device can not work under information theory.
I've provided a reason why Lumen's (and probably Philips) "Oh our sort algorithm doesn't cost anything to run" is wrong based on computational complexity.
I've stated that my thinking isn't necessarily correct - something you might learn from.

Your last statement is the best I have heard yet.  And honestly if "being right" is worth the hell, defamation and character assination you have done both with Philip and now myself, well, please, be right all that you want.  I want no part of you.  It stinks like rotted fruit.

I don't know who "most" is but even if it were true.  Does popularity imply truth.  If not, why *would* the popular opinion matter to me.  Heck isn't OU a place where unpopular opinions are hosted?  Isn't it a little ironic to be harassing someone for an unpopular opinion on a board which hosts unpopular opinions?

Again, for the 4th and final time.  Let me put this in the way that even a small child can understand.... Ok, here it goes.....   "It is not nessacerily what you say but how you say it."  There, that about sums it up. 

My response in bold!

[sarkeizen]

Please continue to judge me

Not judging just saying what the verse says.  Perhaps you need to look at yourself more than me.

Your claim that Philip has previously defrauded on payments of rewards

Nope, you misunderstood.  Try again....Again perhaps considering that what I know about certain conversations concerning bets might just happen, somehow by the slightest of chances to be greater than what Bruce_TPU knows.  You know, just saying that you might actually not know something for once.

not once but on other occasions, thus calling him a fraud, cheat and liar by implication.

You really have to be clearer here.  I have no idea what statement of mine you're talking about.

I have ZERO interest in presenting a cogent argument

Thanks for confirming that...so since you have no interest in cogent arguments...how about you just be patient somewhere quietly hmmm?

As state above.  Reread it please even though I know it won't stick in your arrogant brain.

In which you misunderstood the text you read.

I have no respect for someone who continually is out to assasinate the character of another both by word and implication.

So having no respect is okay in your world.  Thus you have no reason to have a problem that neither you nor Philip have given me any reason to respect either of you.

The forum members judge between me and thee.

Argument by popularity...Is logic ever a thing for you?

Yes, as long as someone is following their dream, building something, and not just passing wind, they have my respect.  PC hero's do not.

But building things like an argument don't count...right?

If the truth defames you, that I can not help you with that.

Sorry but you haven't stated the truth.  Again *reading* helps but keep feeding your pride there.  I hear that always ends well.

Please continue to interject Christianity into it. 

Look either your a good witness or your a bad one...right here and now it seems like you're a pretty bad one.

I take a stand for what I feel is right and just.

Oh good, "feelings" yeah well there's a long line of horrible people who did what they *feel* is right and just.  I generally dislike speechifying but should I, at some point need to account for my actions I'll be happy to be counted among those who understood deeply WHY they did what they did rather than those who simply FELT it.

And your character assasination of Philip is disgusting.

Always makes you feel good to pretend you're superior I bet.  I have, many times pointed out that at least one thing that I've talked about concerning Philip.  Is a logical consequence of two statements.  Again, logic - feel free to embrace it sometime.

Evil triumps when good men do nothing.

Nothing like putting convenient labels like "evil" on someone just so you can harass them.  Isn't there an ethnic or cultural people group you should be harassing about now?

If there's something that good people should do, it's good.  While many people convince themselves that flying off the handle about things you haven't read or things that you don't understand is in the name of "good".  I have some reservations.

And defamation and character assasination fit that category for me.

Neither has happened.  So how about you stop derailing the thread?

And you think you are a "big man"?  You are a very small man.  IMHO

I think of myself as normal sized.  However attempting to take legal action against someone who otherwise supports you (OU) because they won't indulge your petty revenge seems like the actions of a small man.  Perhaps you differ on this subject?

Hmm.. that is a tough one...  Let's see...  Oh!  Got it!  Because I think your defamation and character assasination

Wait? What?  So you think highly of your opinions because of something that is your opinion? Are you on medication? 

is evil and wrong.  Yep, that is it in a nut shell!

Well whatever you do, make sure you don't have an intellectual argument.  As long as you keep using labels like "evil" you'll be able to feel good about whatever you do.  No matter how bad.

It is one thing to question the tech and a whole other to question the motives, integrity, etc. of an individual that you know nothing about.

In other words you should question yourself more about me...  As for Philip I've said the things I've talked about - such as being a bad manager, are a logical consequence of BELIEVING in the tech and the HONESTY of Philip.  Not to mention Philip appears to agree that he is a bad manager.

I am not interested honestly, in much of anything you have to say, right wrong or indifferent

Isn't that like saying: Truth, lies it's all the same.  I personally wouldn't be proud of that.  Just sayin'

Almost all of his posts can be summed up as "Hush and be patient"
Yes, so true.  Unfortunately it was not heeded.
, "You are a troll"
I speak the truth and lie not.  You are a troll.
  and "Yay Philip". 
Yea Philip!  Be encouraged Philip and don't let the likes of this fellow dissuade you.  You have a lot to be admired.  You use your real name on this forum.  You have been here for some time.  You had and followed your dream.

...and all of that is pretty much irrelevant to the thread.  So it's nice that you confirm that you're hijacking the thread.

Yes, I would agree, I too have wasted too much bandwidth on you in this thread.  I won't post to you again if you leave my name out of your dour comments.

Sorry, you haven't earned any respect yet troll.  Make cogent arguments instead of constant pronouncements and pontifications.  Reason, not religion.

Not concerned with your judgments nor perspectives on either my logs or trees.  Just sayin'. . . .

Most people with huge blind spots seldom are.  That's how they get to be so big. 

I've provided some decision theory concerning expectations on Philip as well as a mathematical basis for modeling it.
I've provided sound reasons as to why a MD device can not work under information theory.
I've provided a reason why Lumen's (and probably Philips) "Oh our sort algorithm doesn't cost anything to run" is wrong based on computational complexity.
I've stated that my thinking isn't necessarily correct - something you might learn from.

Your last statement is the best I have heard yet.  And honestly if "being right" is worth the hell, defamation and character assination you have done both with Philip and now myself, well, please, be right all that you want.  I want no part of you.  It stinks like rotted fruit.

Weird you're so wrapped up in yourself you really don't let yourself read what I'm saying.  I'm saying, I don't think I'm necessarily correct.  I allow argument about my ideas.  You and Philip both come here with big loads of "Absolute Truth" to dump on folks.  No offense nobody needs that.  Ever.  People need reason, information, logic, rationality.   You need to spend your time thinking you're WRONG because as Feynman said you are always the easiest person to fool

Again, for the 4th and final time.  Let me put this in the way that even a small child can understand.... Ok, here it goes.....   "It is not nessacerily what you say but how you say it."  There, that about sums it up. 

ROTFL.  Except you've said the opposite for your entire post.  Everything you've posted is about WHAT I've said.  If that was the case you would have had pages about my use of "donkey balls" rather than talking about "assassination" - assassination is WHAT you are doing - "donkey balls" would be - assuming your presumption is true - HOW you are doing it.

[Bruce_TPU]

You are indeed one of THE crudest, rudest, arrogant, hard headed individual, that has ever been on this forum.  EVEN MORE so than I thought, going back and looking over your abusive comments to just about EVERYONE.  Yep, egomaniac indeed. 

This thread is YOURs!  You can talk to yourself and your own kind.  I too, like Lumen, Philip, E2Matrix, etc., etc., am done with you.  Have fun impressing yourself.   

And it shows there is no moderation at Overunity.com, which we all already knew. 

[Elisha]

@ all

Human beings tend to forget the purpose of what you are doing, and end up doing what is not their purpose.

This forum is to present ideas and projects in development, where inventors can express themselves, through participation of all achieve polish her idea, and can encourage all and avoid failures.

In this last post on the forum, we have forgotten the purpose of this thread, and have fallen in vain confrontations that lead to nothing.

If we continue like this, we discourage inventors and they will not participate more here, we will lose the views of skeptics who help us focus and get a foothold on earth, we will lose the optimists who give us the good spirits and looking forward further research, working and making replicas.

In union there is strength, if we are less sensitive to our differences and focus on what unites us, we could have a good atmosphere in this forum, and everyone will be happier.

Constructive contributions must be made.

Beg the eternal God, to bring the union that we need.

[forcefield]

From http://quentron.com/index.html

It is my claim that the above device will unequivocally violate the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics (2LOT).

Immersed in a single reservoir of heat it will produce a continuous electrical output exceeding 1 Watt.

The diagram of the Sebithenco Device shows heater elements which will produce a temperature differential through the device.  This is not "a single reservoir of heat."

I would like to see a violation of the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, but I don't see how this experiment can demonstrate that.