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[Madebymonkeys]

All that, and yet the drinking bird still continues to drink from the isothermal environment!

Go figure.

It's not an isothermal environment - it works only as a result of it being in a non isothermal environment.

[Madebymonkeys]

It's not an isothermal environment - it works only as a result of it being in a non isothermal environment.

Sorry, it just occurred to me that your quote may have been a metaphor since everyone knows how those birds work!

[sarkeizen]

Sorry, it just occurred to me that your quote may have been a metaphor since everyone knows how those birds work!

A metaphor of what?  Nobody has a quenco...not even Philip.

[Madebymonkeys]

A metaphor of what?  Nobody has a quenco...not even Philip.

No idea what the metaphor could be - I suggested it could be a metaphor because its the only sensible explanation......everyone knows about the 'drinking bird' toy and how it won't work in an isothermal env (or maybe not, who knows!).

Hey, as an idea to PJH (as you say, he's listening!) how about a photo or two of some prototypes as a good indication of this whole adventure being real - I mean real as in 'someone is producing something'!
No reason for him not to, every reason for him to do so?

[sarkeizen]

No idea what the metaphor could be - I suggested it could be a metaphor because its the only sensible explanation......everyone knows about the 'drinking bird' toy and how it won't work in an isothermal env (or maybe not, who knows!).

Not sure either but perhaps it's just a way of saying "well I roasted a vacuum tube and that settles it for me".  Me, even if I did stick a tube into an oven and saw a voltage and a current.  It's difficult to know that you're ruling out every possible non-2LOT violating explanation.

Hey, as an idea to PJH (as you say, he's listening!) how about a photo or two of some prototypes as a good indication of this whole adventure being real - I mean real as in 'someone is producing something'!
No reason for him not to, every reason for him to do so?

I'd be more in favor of a series of diagrams explaining exactly what he thinks is happening at the electron level and specifically showing it break 2LOT.  I'm not sure how much I doubt that Philip has attempted to make something.  Like a few projects I've seen, this seems like pathological science more than outright fraud.  That said, I doubt Philip is telling people the whole truth.