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[orbut 3000]

So, Phil, what's that product you mentioned? Is it a replica of Steorn's 'Nodding Donkey'? Will it disappear from your website around the projected release date, like everything else you promised? Like the patent and the test results? Like the eternal hearing aid? Like the Phone charger? Like the conference in Palo Alto?

[Regster]

2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 and now 2013 is whizzing by.

It took a while to get working aeroplanes too.  I don't know whether you guys dress up in Batman suits, thinking you're saving the world here or something, but people are big enough and ugly enough to make their own decisions without reading constant slating of a man's character, especially when the posts are devoid of the slightest hint of addressing the actual issues raised in each one of the updates.

[sarkeizen]

It took a while to get working aeroplanes too.

It's not necessarily about Philp's character, although you really seem to want it to be.  It's partially about his ability in scheduling.  Either he's good at that or he isn't and the evidence says, that if we assume him to be of good character then he is simply bad at it.  This should our inform our expectations on future schedules by Philip.

especially when the posts are devoid of the slightest hint of addressing the actual issues raised in each one of the updates.

Your assumption is that there is useful information in Philip's posts.  Like I said, if you prefer to believe that the probability of some event prior to some expectation is unchanged after failing to meet some expectation.  That's your affair however don't expect everyone else to drink that kool-aid.

[Regster]

As he points out, it's R&D.  I am sure you could make an accurate schedule for something like - for example -  building a website, because there are no unknown uknowns.  But yes, I agree with you re scheduling.  I actually think it would be better if no dates were announced, or if June 1 is the target, to make it Q1 2014 instead to "under promise and over deliver" as the corporate world a lot of us have worked in would have us say.

But we are not talking about web development, and if Philip was a corporate schmoozer none of us would be talking about this at all, because the info would not have been made public.

And on the subject of Gatorade, it has not touched my lips since I am in a mid state of fuzzy logic.  You however appear to have imbibed copius quantities, considering the extrapolations you have consistently made re missed deadlines with accompanying reasons in your simplistic, binary mind.  To make myself clear, I am neither true nor false and not specifically for or against anything other than imbiciles ripping on a guy who is dedicating his life to doing a good thing.

No false claims of operation have been made.  No "investors" have been solicited.  It's all been as honest as it gets.

To be fair, I am sure you would have been as vocal in ripping the Wright brothers, citing all of the available, flawed Victorian logic regarding size/weight and flight.   A time at the infancy of science when scientists believed all sorts of nutty things and all sorts of nutty laws.  If I had the time and/or sadness I'd like to use computer science to prove something now known as false as actually being an irrefutable proof, using the information, created by the human imagination (inc accompanying flawed/limited experiments) available at that time.

I don't.  But it would be a really interesting experiment.

What it boils down to is that seemingly logical conclusions are based on human constructs of the information available.  Such a simple concept, yet such limited understanding by people like yourself who think you are intelligent because you can act like silicon.

Keep drinking the Gatorade.... I am sure somebody, somewhere is giving you a pat on the back.

[TinselKoala]

Yah... and that explains why it's been two weeks since anyone posted in this thread. Right.




Yawn.