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sarkeizen

Quote from: profitis on October 03, 2013, 08:13:42 AM
the scary bit E hammerstein =E Pt-O(ads) - E Au-O(ads) simplifies Equenco= EAu-EPt

But you said...

Quote.its written and predicted in  textbooks under section 'electrode concentration cells'

So where is it?  So far you just seem to be doing yet another dance to avoid the question that you wanted me to ask and kind of making yourself out to be a liar in the process.

Not to mention that your notation is so unbearably bad it's like reading a kindergartners (and your usual all-too deliberate typing style doesn't help).  I suspect you're just copying something from a free energy web page or just making crap up.  I mean is "ยง" a wreath product, a selection, a summation sign, a definite integral, a contour integral, a partial integral, a scilicet or simply an admission you don't know what you're talking about?

profitis

@sarkeizen woooo! you want to be my schoolteacher now? Kinky but not my thing thanks.just go to an average chem textbook and use it to help you build an O2 concentration cell and test it thoroughly,and i mean thoroughly.if you dont want to build it you can draw it ie.draw a standard diagrammed concentration cell and chek if it runs forever ON PAPER to your satisfaction since you absolutely and stubbornly refuse to build the frikkn thing.fair enough?

sarkeizen

Quote from: profitis on October 03, 2013, 10:41:51 AM
you want to be my schoolteacher now?
No but if you're going to write something it should be intelligible and your deliberate misspellings and typographical conventions are silly.  You don't even know what half the things I mentioned are.  Do you?
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just go to an average chem textbook and use it to help you build
What?  Back to building again? You see for some reason I thought you said:
Quote.its written and predicted in  textbooks under section 'electrode concentration cells'
Oh that's because you did...and you're reneging on that.  How disappointing.

Quotetest it thoroughly,and i mean thoroughly.
You are, yet again an idiot.  I've already explained that nothing in my house, or my neighbours house or my non-existent electrochemist friend's house.  Can test this in any meaningful way.

The only reason I bothered asking you anything was i) because you whined like an infant about my talking about 2LOT (then you turned around and talked about it as much or more yourself even when it was clearly not the topic at hand) and ii) because you said a textbook predicted it, that we should focus on the textbooks.  Here I am trying to do that and all you're doing is avoiding some pretty important questions to do just that.

Why are you avoiding the question?

Quotechek if it runs forever ON PAPER to your satisfaction since you absolutely and stubbornly refuse to build the frikkn thing.
ROFL.  Seriously?  That probably can't be done.  You can hypothesize about physical systems on paper but you can't actually test them.  You can test, in a really laborious way a computer program on paper, or a finite state automata or even a formal axiomatic system but a physical system probably not.

It's not being stubborn.  It's just holding you to your word.  There is no value to the question at hand in building it, there is no value to the question at hand for you to constantly try to sidetrack the conversation into building it.

Quotefair enough?
No.  You said...

Quote.its written and predicted in  textbooks under section 'electrode concentration cells'

Again, nowhere does this say that I need to build anything.  If you want to withdraw this statement then just say so or perhaps you were stretching the truth a bit.  Just man up and say so.

and just stop being a dick about it.

profitis

@sarkeizen..written E=nF +RTln C(a). Predicted E=nF +RTln C(O2). translation: this formula,applied to every single battery electrode predicts that the voltage of an O2 electrode will be directly proportional to the concentration of O2 on that electrode.it predicts that we can build a cell with 2 O2 electrodes with 2 different O2 concentrations on them.we use such electrodes as indicators for aquarium O2 levels,oceanic O2 levels because their voltage is directly proportional to their O2 concentration.we use these electrodes in zinc-air batteries too.if we cover the air vent of a zinc-air cell we see the voltage come down,why?because the O2 concentration drops at the air electrode @sarkeizen,predicted again,by E=nF+RTln CO2.if ocean scientists want to use this  formula to predict their O2 concentrations why dont you want to use it to predict O2 concentration cells? 

profitis

@sarkeizen..to summarize,that formula predicts the possibility of construction of a quenco cell..if you cant see it get a friend to translate it,this given quenco predicting formula found in textbooks.