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[profitis]

It cannot even be defeated on logical grounds mr sarkeizen: all gas spillover cells necessitate a 2lot disintergration in theory and in practice.you cannot destabilize this statement using logic or physical demonstration. 

[profitis]

Incorrect @markE. It was wikipedia that declared that all capactors must leak.you have failed to explain why the diagrammed one won't leak on open switch mode.

[MarkE]

Incorrect @markE. It was wikipedia that declared that all capactors must leak.you have failed to explain why the diagrammed one won't leak on open switch mode.

It's very sad that you keep throwing about straw men.   Shall we return to the issue at hand?  You have constructed the model, and you insist that according to wikipedia that what you have drawn is a leaky capacitor.  Whether it is or it isn't:  1) a capacitor, 2) a capacitor that is initially charged, or 3) a capacitor that is initially charged and ultimately discharges via leakage, you have not shown either of the things needed to establish the thermodynamically reversible process that you claim:  1) two thermodynamic states, and 2) that the system can on its own move from either state to the other.  If you claim 3) as you seem to be suggesting, then you are going to have one heck of a time showing reversibility.

[profitis]

You know its number 3 @mark E.I don't understand why your beating around the bush and I assure you your going to struggle to show irreversability. I've shown reversability by using wikipedias assertion against you ie, the thing spontaneously charges up as is evident in the diagrams,wikipedia says it will now spontaneously charge down when switch is opened.so either it will remain permanently charged on open switch or it won't.if it doesn't then its blatantly obviously reversable. I'm suspecting mr hardcastle will mention something about electric fields over the vaccuum gap making it irreversable but if he is going to say this then I want to know why the two pieces needed contact in the first place. 

[profitis]

I can put the whole issue  to you another way @mark E.do the two metallic pieces need to be in contact to fully charge up.yes or no.