electrolysys with horizontal plates

[Walter Hofmann]

Here is the second movie from Walter attached to this message.
It shows, how he tried to capture the gas of the electrolizer and
that the gas pressure was not big enough to fill the ballon...
Maybe there is some leakage ? or there is a threshold, where the gas
will not be able to push and expand the ballon more ?

like explained before I stopt before it gets a bomb
walt

[Walter Hofmann]

Yes I suspected that the right side was producing cleaner gas because of the colour. Interesting if you put two or three horizontal plates with a hex shaped appatures I would expect to see at least a three fold increase of gas for the same input power.

Hi landor,
like you can see on the picture what I have posted yesterday the hole setup are 3 plates but circular with a like pyramid shape, because my intend as I try this was under the assumption that the bubbles come mostly just from the edges which was somehow partially blocked from the plates to rise to the surface, and if I use a pyramidal shape the bubbles from each plate could rise to the surfae without going throu another surface. My other point is that I wana fit all of the cells in filter housing what has a diameter of just 3 inches what limit the diameter of the plates.
I was really amazed as the whole plates started bubbeling like a explosion and stand this way.
walt

[Walter Hofmann]

Walter wrote me about the upper movie ( you must be logged in to download the movie), that the left horizontal cell works on all the plate surface mostly how a foam
generator as all water has bubles.
The vertical only has bubbles at the edges...
Both cells had the same sea-water ? with some KOH mixed into it.

The left cell with the vertical plates also produces chlor and will get bown colored.
but the right cell with the   horizontal plates  is totatly odorless and stays transparent ( white bubbles only).
The plates have all the same material and is brandnew.
The surface of the  vertical left cell is 168 qcm
and the   right horizontal cell has only  60qcm surface.
The supply voltage is 12V and the amps of both cells
is almost the same, although the difference in plate surface !

Hi all
thats what I dont really understand how only the change from vertical to horizontal can change the whole water. It was allways my probleme that with the vertical version the water turned brown or black greenish what messed up the cell after a while.Some one has a Idea?
greetings
walt

[hartiberlin]

like explained before I stopt before it gets a bomb
walt

I see, it is funny, that you are still smoking , when doing these experiments !
Better watchout and don?t get too near the ballon with your cigarette !
Booom !

[hartiberlin]

Hi all
thats what I dont really understand how only the change from vertical to horizontal can change the whole water. It was allways my probleme that with the vertical version the water turned brown or black greenish what messed up the cell after a while.Some one has a Idea?
greetings
walt

Hmm, why the water does not turn brown with the horizontal
version I also don?t understand.
Walter is all the water in both cells seawater with some KOH added ?
Or was it destilled water ?

Maybe you can still install a sucking pump on the gas output, so
you always have a lower pressure inside the electrolyzer box.
This will probably double or tripple your gas output at the same
input power level !
Also mix the gas output with enough air behind the bubler or inside
the bubbler with an aquarium pump, that also goes into the bubbler,
then you don?t have so much explosive gas, but it will
burn also better in the IC engine, cause it is there again
compressed in the cylinders.
Also via the mixing with enough air you will get much more
gas all in all. This should then be enough to run your engine.