electrolysys with horizontal plates

[hartiberlin]

Pretty interesting, that with much smaller surface the horizontal design
draws a bit more current and produces much more gas !

[Landor]

Ok got that yes what is happening is it is all about pressure.

The Gass from the balloon gets to the point where it is creating more pressure than the gass filling as it is not filling the balloon under pressure.

This is where most start to run into problems if they wish to collect and store the gass. You need a good collection system and valves to bve able to fill a bottle with pressurised gass.

I would if this is to be used for say running a car, look to being able to produce the required amount to feed from the aperatus directly into the mixing chamber or carburetta as this would be a lot safer and less problematical also very cost effective.

[Landor]

Imagine chicken wire only smaller appatures. Less materal to feed a current but great area contact with water solution. Hmmm can do a sketch if you don't see what I mean. let me know.

[Walter Hofmann]

Here is the second movie from Walter attached to this message.
It shows, how he tried to capture the gas of the electrolizer and
that the gas pressure was not big enough to fill the ballon...
Maybe there is some leakage ? or there is a threshold, where the gas
will not be able to push and expand the ballon more ?

Hi stefan,
no actually the pressure is enough I could fill the ballon up to the full extend within 3 to 4 min, I just stopt is for two reason,
1st. the video would then be to big for transfer and 2nd the full ballon would be like a bomb.
the maximum pressure what i have reached was around 3 psi on a gauge.
My intend is to feed it directly in to a generator engine to support my electrical usage, because since the hurricanes last year the electrical cost has doubled.
The direct feed needs no high pressure and dont forget it is only one cell what creates this much allready. I plane on putting three cells in paralell which canbe switched induvidually to compensate for high power demand for a few minutes if all my pumps ( well, house waterpressure, septic and pool) together with my A/C system come on at the same time.
greetings
walt

[Walter Hofmann]

Imagine chicken wire only smaller appatures. Less materal to feed a current but great area contact with water solution. Hmmm can do a sketch if you don't see what I mean. let me know.

Hi landor,
I see what you mean. but there is a limit I try different mesh sizes and the maximum size what still brought enough bubbles was 4x4 bigger then this did create less bubbles, but amazingly the drawn current was even there pretty much the same. The other side is that I bought from surplus a roll from the shown size 8X8,0.032 and the bigger size is pretty expensive what I can not effort.
walt