Larskro's magnet motor video was a fake - he admits on second video

[MileHigh]

Mags:

I moved the battery out of the loop with the resistor and the coil because the circuit doesn't work with the battery in that loop.  I am assuming the author simply made a mistake.

I assume that "two way street" means partial recharging of the battery.  When I looked at both of his circuits I don't recall seeing that.  The first circuit should be discounted don't you think?  He said that he made a mistake.  You seem to be indicating that you are hunting for OU.  I don't get that because he said it was a battery-powered hoax.

And if we were discussing why the leds are brighter in Cw and CCW of the rotor, then how can this apply to your explanation of the battery and coil emf adding up or subtracting with your new modified version? The battery is out of the loop when the reed opens.  You are changing the subject M. Why is that?

It's because the real action is in the loop where the battery is in my circuit.  You are not getting what happens when the reed opens.  It's all explained in my postings.  Again, I suspect that the actual circuit in the running demo is the circuit I posted.  So there is no changing of the subject.

How do you come to the conclusion that your circuit mod is what you "think" lars really used?  Thats libelous.

Get real please.  You wonder why I get irked.

By the way, I looked at the Leedskalnin doc on magnets where he talks about invisible north-only and south-only (i.e.; magnetic monopoles) circulating around a bar magnet in opposite directions.  He also mentions the very popular "neutral zone" at the half-way point along the major axis.  It's wackadoo wonderland material!

MileHigh

[Magluvin]

Mags:

I moved the battery out of the loop with the resistor and the coil because the circuit doesn't work with the battery in that loop.  I am assuming the author simply made a mistake.

It doesnt work with the battery in the loop?   Well that sucks, My rotor must have been running on cat farts then.  And the leds were lighting because it is that time of the month? 
Why doesnt it work M? Garry didnt complain that the circuit didnt work. You wont answer that, nor anything I ask. Im not even laughing anymore. Im actually concerned.

When you say stuff like that, when I know that it does work, I have to assume you are not as knowledgeable as you try to show, or you are saying it to discourage from that circuit. Which is it M?  Ill stick with Lars first circuit. 

My new thing is, if MH is against it, then it must be worth looking at further. 

"Again, I suspect that the actual circuit in the running demo is the circuit I posted.  So there is no changing of the subject."

So its your rules again. Well no M. I dont agree with your new circuit to be what Lars claims. You were not showing this new circuit when we were talking about this earlier.

Show me where. Show me that you have ever said that Lars circuits dont work.
Were you talking about this new circuit before you posted it? Show me where.
Good weed?

This is a huge waste of time as Wilby said.  Look how you work. Bordering certified.
4 pages and you just keep on not addressing your trip ups, and now your saying we were talking about this imaginary(in your mind) circuit?

Thanks Wilby, I will get back to my work now. M, ya need to get a better brand of weed. Because these last four pages show that you are the one that is all over the place. You either do it on purpose or you need real help.

Anyone reading this, if you happen to look over these 4 pages, could you tell me if MH,s weed is way too strong.       Maybe some tainted rice paper?    

Im done M.  Maybe it is A.D.D. and you cant focus on the subject. But you are seriously wasting my time. Probably on purpose as I have stated numerous times.


Mags

[MileHigh]

Mags:

This clip has the first schematic:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n93iIduG01I&list=UUjoIJFCH3ebq24jeqf11mfg&index=1&feature=plcp

That's the one he has stated is wrong.  In that schematic the current is flowing counter-clockwise in the main loop.  The critical problem is that when the reed switch opens the coil does a quick high-voltage discharge through a reverse-biased LED.  Obviously he didn't want to do that and said there was a mistake.

This is the short clip with the "corrected" schematic:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM6-4D74bi4&feature=plcp&context=C448e387VDvjVQa1PpcFMETNpBjsuK4CABwEMz_W19I60cqVIN000%3D

In that schematic the current flows clockwise and therefore the LED will get forward-biased and discharge when the reed switch opens.  However, the critical problem in this schematic is that the battery will constantly keep the LED forward biased and on all the time.  Obviously he didn't want to do that and that's another mistake.  I am making the reasonable assumption that the battery is 1.5 volts and the LED switches on at 1 volt.

So there are your two critical problems with the two schematics.

The solution is to move the battery as I showed in my marked up schematic.

To quote Larskro:

If you believe that self-running devices works (Video 1) is my headline wrong. If you believe that self-running, overunity devices DO NOT works, my headline is correct.
The meaning of this video is just to open peoples eyes.
I did not expect that someone wanted to replicate this motor.
Thanks to all interested. Larskro

I had an exchange with Larsko on YouTube six days ago, here it is:

   
•      All that I can tell you is that it will work properly if you take the batteries out of the loop formed by the resistor/battery/coil/LED. The battery has to be in the "outer loop" which in the schematic above consists of the reed switch and the LED. I am assuming that the "corrected" circuit that I am suggesting is how it actually is wired.
      User2718218   in reply to     ReasonForemost (Show the comment) 1 week ago 
     
•      Here is the proper circuit for each loop: reed switch bottom -> batt negative -> batt positive -> 5-ohm resistor -> coil -> reed switch top.
  In your diagram, you just have to move the batteries so that they are between the reed switch bottom connection and the 5 ohm resistors.
      User2718218   1 week ago 
     
•      This will also work.
  Thanks.
      Larskro   in reply to     User2718218 (Show the comment) 6 days ago

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[MileHigh]

Mags:

As far as all of your bullshit goes, that's just you being a fool in a misguided attempt to impress your free energy friends.  I understand electronics reasonably well and you are just a beginner and and that seems to be a real bugaboo for you.  So you doing all of this ridiculous "styling" is just laughable nonsense.

It's your choice, you can try to "beat me up" or you can act like a reasonable and normal human being.

I just told you exactly what is wrong with both of the schematics posted by Larskro.  I also posted a corrected schematic that will work properly.  Do you have any comments about that?

MileHigh

[Magluvin]

Mags:

This clip has the first schematic:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n93iIduG01I&list=UUjoIJFCH3ebq24jeqf11mfg&index=1&feature=plcp

That's the one he has stated is wrong.  In that schematic the current is flowing counter-clockwise in the main loop.  The critical problem is that when the reed switch opens the coil does a quick high-voltage discharge through a reverse-biased LED.  Obviously he didn't want to do that and said there was a mistake.

This is the short clip with the "corrected" schematic:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM6-4D74bi4&feature=plcp&context=C448e387VDvjVQa1PpcFMETNpBjsuK4CABwEMz_W19I60cqVIN000%3D

In that schematic the current flows clockwise and therefore the LED will get forward-biased and discharge when the reed switch opens.  However, the critical problem in this schematic is that the battery will constantly keep the LED forward biased and on all the time.  Obviously he didn't want to do that and that's another mistake.  I am making the reasonable assumption that the battery is 1.5 volts and the LED switches on at 1 volt.

So there are your two critical problems with the two schematics.

The solution is to move the battery as I showed in my marked up schematic.

To quote Larskro:
I had an exchange with Larsko on YouTube six days ago, here it is:

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I his 3rd video comments he states why he changed the circuit, because someone told him it didnt work. But it does. He even claims that he is not even sure now because He cant remember. With a meter he could find out, if he can see which of the coil wires is the opposite end of the coil from the battery. So just because he said the first circuit was wrong, he later doest know at all.
So you are wrong.

"The critical problem is that when the reed switch opens the coil does a quick high-voltage discharge through a reverse-biased LED." Wrong again.

Not true. You are asserting that the coil during collapse is continuing to flow current forward in circuit 1, but it doesnt. Sim even shows that there is actual bemf, reverse emf, the current reverses and lights the led. I went over this.

And in the second circuit the currents from collapse IS continued forward current while also lighting the led from collapse.

The only difference in the 2 circuits is the batt polarity and the magnetic output polarity of the coil. So the led can stay as it is in each circuit.

But like I said, you are just guessing, and I have it right in front of me.
You are wrong

Show me common 1v red leds M. the best I have found is 1.4 up to 2v. Green and yel can go higher than 2v. Blue and ultraviolet can be in the 4v range.

And Lars batts are 1.2v(stated) and his pic shows 1.4v It must be at an after charging high. 1.35 is typical So he must have to recharge after a few short runs to just get close to the led turn on. ;]

Ive been playing with leds since the early 70's  8 years old. Just red green and yellow then. Ir also but we are not talking of those. You should also know this. you just happen to use 1v to fit your crap.  Bonehead

You just cant stop lying and conjuring up falsehoods to fit your side of your ever tripping story. Did you take the red or the blue pill? I talked with the guy. I know more than your terrible guessing and clear twisting of his words above.
READ IT AGAIN M. ITS YOUR POST!   right up there, a few inches away.

And as for your conversation with Lars as you posted above, he only says that it "will also work "  he didnt say it WAS the circuit he was using. Twist twist
Your a twister of your own words. READ IT  YOU WROTE IT JUST ABOVE   READ IT...

"As far as all of your bullshit goes, that's just you being a fool in a misguided attempt to impress your free energy friends.  I understand electronics reasonably well and you are just a beginner and and that seems to be a real bugaboo for you.  So you doing all of this ridiculous "styling" is just laughable nonsense.

It's your choice, you can try to "beat me up" or you can act like a reasonable and normal human being.

I just told you exactly what is wrong with both of the schematics posted by Larskro.  I also posted a connected schematic that will work properly.  Do you have any comments about that?
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Beginner?  I dont dispute that your circuit will drive the motor. It is basic. But you still pulled a switch on what we were talking about. You did not pull up this circuit till now and we have been talking about his circuits, not this new one that lars only says that it will work also compared to his.

Lars 1st circuit...
This circuit will send some back to the battery while lighting the led   Most eff

Lars 2nd circuit...
This circuit drains the batt during switch closure and drains the bat while lighting the led  Least eff

Your circuit...

Drains the battery during switch closure but the battery is out of the circuit when the switch is open. Your circuit is less eff than Lars first circuit and better than lars second circuit.

People, remember these few posts when I do the battery motor vids to show that what I have written is correct an MH is on crack. ;]

Its gota be crack.

No matter what I do , the skull is way to thick. maybe Cro-MHagnon.

All of my OU friends?  Hey, I do have friends dont I. Thats the difference between you and I. Thats a beautiful thing. ;] Those guys are the greatest. 
Umm you were saying M?

Mags