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HHO and "Gas fired boiler"

Started by goqo, April 13, 2012, 10:58:44 AM

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mikestocks2006

Quote from: Paul-R on April 15, 2012, 10:20:53 AM
...Straight HHO is  FANTASTICALLY explosive.
If by â€"Straight-  you mean stoichiometric, then shouldn't that term be implosive instead of explosive?
Thx
Mike

Paul-R

Quote from: mikestocks2006 on April 15, 2012, 12:29:34 PM
If by â€"Straight-  you mean stoichiometric, then shouldn't that term be implosive instead of explosive?
Thx
Mike
Both.

It will explode with utmost ferocity (- the flame speed is supersonic,
and can blow the ear drums of anyone nearby).

If restrained (and it hasn't blown its restraints to pieces),
technically, the "steam" produced will condense, potentially
giving the conditions for implosion.

This stuff is a major league hazard. Serious people in the field,
like Bob Boyce and Patrick Kelly, are highly likely to advise that
the best way to use HHO is to generate it as needed and pump
it straight into an internal combustion engine.

HHO gives the opportunity to blow a wall out of a workshop.

goqo

I know about Hydrogen that can be really dangerous but also natural gas is dangerous as well. Boiler has its safety conditions already... what do you think??

Paul-R

Quote from: goqo on April 17, 2012, 04:36:31 AM
I know about Hydrogen that can be really dangerous but also natural gas is dangerous as well. Boiler has its safety conditions already... what do you think??
It is not hydrogen that is dangerous; it is hydroxy gas, HHO, a perfect
stochiometric mixture of hydrogen and oxygen. That stuff is DEADLY.

Also, it is very unsafe to store it. It can spontaneously explode, or go off
in response to some sort of minor tap or bang.

Once it is no longer in its perfect mix, it is much safer. You could introduce air
or one of the constituent gases. But if the dilution process should fail for some
reason, you could find yourself standing before your creator.

If you do, I wonder if you could ask why the Universe is so damned complicated.

goqo

Quote from: Paul-R on April 17, 2012, 10:54:25 AM
It is not hydrogen that is dangerous; it is hydroxy gas, HHO, a perfect
stochiometric mixture of hydrogen and oxygen. That stuff is DEADLY.

Also, it is very unsafe to store it. It can spontaneously explode, or go off
in response to some sort of minor tap or bang.

Once it is no longer in its perfect mix, it is much safer. You could introduce air
or one of the constituent gases. But if the dilution process should fail for some
reason, you could find yourself standing before your creator.

If you do, I wonder if you could ask why the Universe is so damned complicated.


:) understand. Hydroxy(HHO) that is used to increase mpg on car also... I do not plan to store hho or air-mixed hho or hydrogen only. I planned a on-demand system like we used on cars. After producing HHO we can mix it with air or seperate hyrdogen only like you and Mark said before. Also i want to say that there is KOH in water and yes it produce poisonous gas but Natural gas also produce poisonous gas and it goes out via exhoust. And i think the level of poisonous gas is very much lower than natural gas. So i think there is no such a huge safety condition difference between HHO(Air-mixed or seperated H) and Natural gas to fire a boiler. What do you think? Is that feasible?? Or anybody try or planned to do that??

Thanks all...