Bessler's En Principia

[Pirate88179]

  Bill,
More Americans are of German ancestry than anything else.
Funny how you don't like us foreigners.

Captain Oblivious:

I love foreigners, it is you American hating assholes that live off of the hard work of others I can live without.  Get your facts straight Johnny boy. Oh, I also have a strong dislike for folks that lie....like you do.  I have never stolen anything in my life and yet, you keep saying that I have.  You also claim TK has stolen as well.  Pretty serious lies for such an idiot like yourself.

[johnny874]

  Bill,
Saying you like people who live in other countries is a half truth, after all, they don't live in your precious America.

edited to add; uh, bill, can you say something else besides you're an American and it's the greatest country in the world ?
After all, this is supposed to be an international forum.

[Pirate88179]

From Besslers Apologia Poetica

"But softly! - speak softly of all these marvels,                                   
lest the enemy grows wise!  He will drench me with his spittle                     
so that I will lose my temper and in a sudden fit,                                 
cast aside the mantle that conceals my wheel.                                       
But he shall be thwarted in his desires."

Pirate hath drenched thee with much spittle using improper grammar. Saint Buzz recommends creative writing and basic English classes. Saint Buzz would also recommend anger management training or at the very minimum, an ankle bracelet.


Saint Buzz now returns to the heavens to bask in the  after glow of an ironic cut and paste.

Is this some kind of attempt on your part to express an idea or a thought?  Try backing off of the meds a little bit and give it another go.  Possibly, you might make some sense.

Bill

[Pirate88179]

   

edited to add; uh, bill, can you say something else besides you're an American and it's the greatest country in the world ?
After all, this is supposed to be an international forum.

Yes I can say something else. 

You are an Asshole.

Does that count?

Bill

[johnny874]

@ jonnie874
I find your work on Bessler's wheel interesting since your interpretation of how it works which includes acceleration most helpful. Please let me know if my understanding of what you are saying is correct:

It takes two derivatives to define position as taught in physics which are:
1. Velocity - Distance over time.
2. Acceleration - Chance in velocity.

There is a third derivative which is chance in acceleration which would be necessary to define the exact position of an object that is accelerating at any given time. That third derivative is sometimes called "jerk". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerk_%28physics%29  As a side note, I would ignore the third derivative of position within this thread since it is hollow and brings nothing to the table.

Bessler seems to be saying that the bill of the bird is being used as a nozzle to spit the water to a different position in the wheel. From a physics perspective, he converts gravity into pressure to accelerate the mass to a new position to unbalance the wheel. If this is what you are saying, that would certainly provide some food for thought on how Bessler's wheel actually worked that is based in the intellect of mechanical engineering and physics.

If this is so, then a purely mechanical system of weights would seem impossible unless they were free to tumble and be thrown using a lever to accelerate them.

The hollow baseless insults of a jingoistic narcissist are to be ignored. Please remember not all people from the USA are this way. In fact, some of us actually know the name of our country or that "Asshole" is not a proper noun.  It is the low IQ flag wavers that think America is the name of their country unaware that is the name of a continent. You can't fix crazy or stupid, so let us just ignore it and keep moving.

As a second generation immigrant, I don't need to say to you "Welcome to the United States". This is your home and thank you for your contribution to our nation.

Now that the entropy of "balance" has been restored to the nation, the wheel and the thread, let us sit back and watch it spin some more.

Saint Buzz now returns to the heavens to bask in the bright red after glow that emanates from the freshly bitch slapped sea criminal.

   TheBuzz,
Thanks for bringing some sanity back to the forum again 
Some times I wish I had John's books so i couuld read all the4 different things bessler mentioned. But one thing I have found is that to much information can keep a person from doing something.
With the stork's bill, it does make a good pump like the basic one I built, they use same principle.
Within the concept of a wheel, it would be curved or warped and it's known that Bessler said he used warped boards.
With what I am working on, it will be a rough build. But as long as it helps to show how the pumps work together, that will be okay. And with one tool I have thought of to build, it will help to make sure everything will be closely aligned.
After this, I will be building a second, slightly smaller wheel, one about 25 inches in diameter. And I hope to use the same tooling to save on money.
Some things I have found out is the layout of the wheel is one of the more difficult aspects. After all, the mechanics can't work together if the wheel is not properly proportioned. it will be the week following this one when I should be able to post a video or picture of the wheel on a stand. After this, then adding the pumps and their levers will be next.
Sea Buzz, one thing people have over looked about the levers ona wheel like this is that as the wheel rotates, the levers will swing away from center towards the outer part of the wheel. And once again, to quote Bessler, he said that his weights got their force from swinging. And even when they are at an angle of 45 degrees, as the wheel rotates, they would be swinging downward. After all, they do have a fulcrum.
Think of the wheel as a rotating fulcrum for 8 pendulums and like a clock, it has 2 different size hands to work with.

                                                                                              Jim           
                                                                                                           
edited to add; I didn't know they had calculations for the "jerk". I suggested something like that to Jovan as one way Milkovic's pendulum might become overunity. Kind of like shooting pool you know, if you cut the ball right, 8 ball in the corner pocket, ka-ching !