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New simple pulsed Device Potential (Overunity)

Started by sidneo, April 25, 2012, 05:11:29 AM

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Low-Q

In the best case you will have an efficient electromotor, but not over unity. Regardless how I misunderstood the design (Which design I understand now after examining it closer), there is loss in the coil which prevents it from delivering all the energy back.
Further, if you load the motor, the efficiency will decrease due to increased heat in the coil.


The best case is a superconducting coil. Then you can expect the motor to have a potential efficiency of 100%. The coil cannot deliver more back emf than the energy supplied to it in the first place. However, if it had, you would have a motor with more than 100% efficiency - over unity - with a coil which is more than super conducting. The question is: What coil have less than 0 Ohms resistance? Because, that is what you need to reach over unity in this particular case.


Good luck with the project anyways  :)


Vidar

sidneo

Quote from: Low-Q on April 25, 2012, 05:26:24 PM
In the best case you will have an efficient electromotor, but not over unity. Regardless how I misunderstood the design (Which design I understand now after examining it closer), there is loss in the coil which prevents it from delivering all the energy back.
Further, if you load the motor, the efficiency will decrease due to increased heat in the coil.


The best case is a superconducting coil. Then you can expect the motor to have a potential efficiency of 100%. The coil cannot deliver more back emf than the energy supplied to it in the first place. However, if it had, you would have a motor with more than 100% efficiency - over unity - with a coil which is more than super conducting. The question is: What coil have less than 0 Ohms resistance? Because, that is what you need to reach over unity in this particular case.


Good luck with the project anyways  :)


Vidar


Hi Vidar


Got your point but its clear that you didn't understood it since the electromagnet doesn't represent more than 1/3 of the energy involved here just like a "car jack" .
the coil is 0.0144 ohms  and it doesn't really matter . 550 paralleled wires 3 centimeters long  almost  no voltage just current  and there is no back emf nor lenz's law here  since the coil does not interact with any of the rotor changing flux and its not a closed circuit just a medium producing emf as byproduct in an open circuit .


A source of power
       |
       |
       |------C EMF
       |
       |
B Load


anyway that's not the point here and i will not try to convince you any way don't worry i know how misconceptions ,bad math and misunderstanding of physic 101 can lead to ridicule . But that's not the case here  .






Thanks Sidneo









Low-Q

Quote from: sidneo on April 25, 2012, 08:26:29 PM

Hi Vidar


Got your point but its clear that you didn't understood it since the electromagnet doesn't represent more than 1/3 of the energy involved here just like a "car jack" .
the coil is 0.0144 ohms  and it doesn't really matter . 550 paralleled wires 3 centimeters long  almost  no voltage just current  and there is no back emf nor lenz's law here  since the coil does not interact with any of the rotor changing flux and its not a closed circuit just a medium producing emf as byproduct in an open circuit .


A source of power
       |
       |
       |------C EMF
       |
       |
B Load


anyway that's not the point here and i will not try to convince you any way don't worry i know how misconceptions ,bad math and misunderstanding of physic 101 can lead to ridicule . But that's not the case here  .






Thanks Sidneo
OK. Just don't mix up ENERGY and FORCE.


You can lift a car with your bare hands with a jack, but on the cost of how long distance your hand moves versus the distance you lift the car. The "force x distance = same energy"


Vidar

sidneo

Quote from: Low-Q on April 26, 2012, 07:32:35 AM
OK. Just don't mix up ENERGY and FORCE.


You can lift a car with your bare hands with a jack, but on the cost of how long distance your hand moves versus the distance you lift the car. The "force x distance = same energy"



Vidar

Hi Vidar

LOL that's why i used the jack analogy  the 2 permanent magnets around  the jack (electromagnet+ pulsed current) are  the car and the hand doing the work.

Jack =  (electromagnet+ pulsed current)
Car  = north permanent magnet
Hand doing work =south  permanent magnet

in this case the jack is only providing dynamisme to a static potential .


Anyway i will try it and if it does work i will post the apparatus and the protocol to replicate
if it doesn't i will also post why not and maybe avoid a waist of time to others .

Thanks Sidneo