magnetic perpetual motion

[DreamThinkBuild]

Hi Mastersus,

Welcome to the forum. Thank you for sharing this design.

The two magnets mounted on the base, is one pulling the curved side down while the other side is pushing up on the flat side? Looks almost like a magnetic ratchet.

[TinselKoala]

Yes, it's a good story. The plotline, in fact, has been used many times and has even been on television, like Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, and dozens of others. Even down to the detail of the abandoned premises that nobody noticed being cleaned out.

Of course I believe you that it happened just as you describe. The best real life is taken from the ideas of playwrights, after all. Or is it the other way around? Either way, it's interesting.

What happened to the other magnet, though.. the broken one, the pieces that you handled? Where exactly were they, when you were watching the rotor gain speed?

[e2matrix]

mastersus,  Thanks for taking the time to draw the diagrams as I was obviously a long way off.  Like they say a picture is worth a thousand words.    Regarding the broken magnet I am a bit confused but I don't think it is that important with regards to the spinning magnets but I have to wonder if the broken bar magnet he gave you may have been magnetized diametrically - that is the front face North and the back side South rather than ends being N and S.  That might explain why it wouldn't go together as one would expect. 

   From your drawings it almost looks like the magnets were semicircles or half of a round magnet.  Would you say that is likely more so than triangular?   Also looking at your diagram do you recall if it would be rotating clockwise or counter clockwise? 

[e2matrix]

I'm going to also take a guess that the magnet mounted on the base on one side is North side up and on the other side (not shown in mastersus diagram) is probably South side up.   
edit: actually I think DreamThinkBuild said basically the same thing in his question.  The fact that DTF is here looking at this gives me confidence there may be something to it 

[mastersus]

Hi Mastersus,

Welcome to the forum. Thank you for sharing this design.

The two magnets mounted on the base, is one pulling the curved side down while the other side is pushing up on the flat side? Looks almost like a magnetic ratchet.

Hi DTB,

The sketch was not posted as a design per say, but as means of explaining my earlier post in part as it were.

The basic working premise for the model was the number of magnets employed and their precise shape. Whilst the thick edge attracted (let's assume they were North), as magnets naturally do as long as they are opposite poles, whilst the opposite ends  repulsed, but that effect lessened as it's square surface was reduced, if you see what I mean.
I seem to remember that I rotated the rotor clockwise, but whether I have depicted the configuration of the rotor correctly I'm not sure.

When subscribing to this forum I expected constructive criticism if nothing else, skepticism, but not such downright negativism as has been shown so far. I know now how Issac Newton, Galileo and other profound thinkers must have felt, please gentlemen, if you have nothing good or accurate to say, better to say nothing at all...masetrus