magnetic perpetual motion

[neptune]

@Mastersus. Yes I can see what you mean about repulsion and the broken magnet. Either you did not explain it in enough detail, or I failed to understand. As an ex conjuror, I am always aware of people being fooled. Until and unless someone replicates this, it just remains an urban myth to those of us who were not there. Notice that I did not call you a liar, as you are convinced it was real, and you were there. Scepticism is not always a negative thing. Sometimes we have to reach an open verdict due to a scarcity of evidence.

[TinselKoala]

Did I miss the answer to the question about where exactly the other magnets were, when you were watching the rotor accelerate?

Or did it get lost in the skeptic-bashing somewhere?


I mean... someone relates a story about seeing a simple device--- similar if not identical to hundreds that you can find on this very forum alone.... and a story that has been used in literature many times.....

and he won't even answer a simple polite question about where the other, broken, magnet pieces are, but has plenty of time to bash those who ask the questions.

OK... I see that as being completely par for the course. Carry on with your Minato motor discussion, but remember: he has the patent on the angled magnet arrangement.

[mastersus]

@Mastersus. Yes I can see what you mean about repulsion and the broken magnet. Either you did not explain it in enough detail, or I failed to understand. As an ex conjuror, I am always aware of people being fooled. Until and unless someone replicates this, it just remains an urban myth to those of us who were not there. Notice that I did not call you a liar, as you are convinced it was real, and you were there. Scepticism is not always a negative thing. Sometimes we have to reach an open verdict due to a scarcity of evidence.

Hi neptune...sorry if I puffed up a bit there.

The broken magnet played no part of the demo, was done on a wooden work bench, I surmised he handed it to me to see whether I understood  some elementary magnetic principals i.e. the fact that a broken magnet can't be put together as the new poles created at the break repulse, not attract.

I have never thought healthy scepticism to be negative, outright denunciation is an other matter...so let's continue

...mastersus   

[mastersus]

For all interested parties  http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/disclosure/briefing/disclosure18.htm

...mastersus

[e2matrix]

mastersus,  Thanks again for sharing info here.  It may be good to realize there is rather little moderation on this forum.  That leads to a lot of armchair judges which are often quick to rebuke new claims.  Many here have seen hundreds if not thousands of claims of perpetual motion, overunity, self-running magnet generators and so on.  Yet most would not still be here looking if they had the details to build such devices.   The skepticism and even anger at new claims after seeing so many things proven bogus or incorrect measurements and so on is not uncommon nor unexpected.  A few people though will try to honestly and with open mind assess whether it may be possible.  Next usually comes whether it is economically a good plan to try building something and to do that you will get a lot more nitpicking on details.  Try not to take it personally as people in their anonymity on the Internet can come off a bit callous after having spent so much time seeing things that do not work out.   

There are a couple real magnetic field experts around here and if one of them happens on to this thread you may get an explanation of how or if this was possible.  I've seen companies that claim to have magnet motor generators and although I believe some are real and have seen large investments in building such I still don't see any available to the general public so it's still a choice of belief as to whether this concept works.