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Overunity Machines Forum



Working SMOT ramp from Tom Ferko ?

Started by hartiberlin, July 12, 2006, 10:42:03 AM

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hartiberlin

Hi,
here is a real new great magnet Video setup for a working SMOT ramp
with a big rollaway from Tom Ferko:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6531588179303444480
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hartiberlin

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hartiberlin

He wrote on the yahoogroup:

Hi All,

I am right now getting things together to make a movie clip of this
track with the runner magnet in motion on a level surface. It will be
an eye opener.

I stated previously that my ceramic runner donut ring magnet was 5
pounds. I estimated incorrectly. Today I actually weighed it and it was
7 pounds.

I found I could roll it with the track as illustrated in the "FILES"
section a distance of 4.5 feet.

If you place stacked neodymium cylinder or rod magnets for your rail
poles as shown you can easily duplicate this "STAGGERED" track
yourself. Big things to remember are to use a large heavy donut ceramic
ring magnet as your runner magnet. It will not twist and turn easily.

Most importantly the runner magnet runs up the "center" between
both "staggered" rail pole sections. The rail poles NEVER touch the
runner magnet at all. The angle the rail poles are positioned from the
sides of the runner magnet is critical. To close in from the
tracks "START" and the runner will not move at all or worse yet the
runner magnet will have to be forced onto the track to move. To far
away and the runner wont move. At some specific pole angle the runner
can be placed by two fingers onto the track and it will start rolling
on its own.

This is very important or your track will not work at all. For every 1
or 1.5 inches ( lenght) of magnets you have stacked together as rail
magnets you must have a "NON FERROUS" 1/4 inch gap between each of
them. I used 1/4 inch wood disks or 4 USA copper pennys between my rail
magnets. Both work excellent. My first rail pole has 13-- 1.5 inch
long .75 inch diameter grade 38 neodymium magnets stacked together
inside an aluminum channel. My runner magnet is 4.5 inches in diameter
and is a total of 3 inches thick, 3 sections stacked together.

The second rail pole you will see in a movie clip is 1/4 inch thick, 1
inch diameter, stacked ceramic disk magnets arranged in like fashion as
above. That second rail pole was not as powerfull as the neo rail but
it does the job. It was brought in a little closer as its power was
less than my neo rail.


Lets concentrate now on the MID point of the FIRST rail pole of the
track.

Look across and you will see the second rail pole segment starting at
that point and tapering inwards ( upside down V shape or arrow shape )
at the end. Just like the first rail did.

Now lets look at the ending point of each rail. If the end point of
both rails are to close to the runner the magnet will try to spin
around. If to far away nothing is gained. Some angle you will have to
find with your particular runner magnet there will be a pronounced
repel or kick off at the rail poles end.-------> Acceleration.------
>
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hartiberlin

Tom Ferko wrote to me:

Hi Stefan,

Thanks for showing it on your web site.
I hope others try to replicate it - I did everthing on a level surface and
hope to see if it goes up an incline later.   Maybe using a lighter runner
might be better.   Lots of room for experimentation.  My runner magnet
actually rolled/fell off the wood planks end onto a section of white plastic
sheet I had at the end of the plank so as not to damage the magnet on the
concrete driveway.  It even rolled further down this plastic as you can see.
Lots of repulsive action at the ends of the stacked two magnet rails.

Notice how the runner magnet is pushed one way then the other way at the
ends of the rail magnets?   It does not head straight down the wood plank
but at  angles due to the last push it recieved.    The runner magnet is
heavy and 3 inches wide or it would only spin around when it was pushed.
This way it just rolls an angle first one way then later another way.
Staggered.     You can put this letter with the other info on the track on
your web site if you wish.       Many Thanks,    Tom Ferko

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Hartmann" <hartiberlin@gmx.de>
To: "TOM FERKO" <tferko243700MI@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:13 AM
Subject: Re:Stagger Track Illustrated


> Hi Tom,
> I made a new topic about your special SMOT ramp here:
>
> http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1244.0.html
>
>
> Please update the topic with new pics and new
> reports.
> Did you have a small incline in the video
> or why was the magnet jumping down at the end ?
> How much height difference does your ramp have ?
> Many thanks.
>
> Gruss / Best regards, Stefan Hartmann
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hartiberlin

He replied again:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Hartmann" <hartiberlin@gmx.de>
To: "TOM FERKO" <tferko243700MI@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: Re:Stagger Track Illustrated


> Hi Tom,
> many thanks, I have posted your answer.
> Why did you at all let the roller fall then ?
> Why didn?t you put a longer wood plank there,
> so you could measure, when the roller stops after
> how many meters ?
>
> 2.Can the roller magnet be shown to roll from about 1 Meter
> away into the track, then being accelerated and will
> roll out then with higher speed. or are at the beginning of the track
anywhere
> any repelling forces ?
>
> 3. How are the magnets setup in the tracks of the video ?
> in the overunitybuilder yahoogroup there are different pics and
> many things have been deleted there already.
> Maybe you can send me a drawing for posting, which
> shows the magnet setup ?
>
> 4. in the overunitybuilder yahoogroup there was a picture
> with a new ramp showing "V" shaped iron rods and
> magnets at the side. Did you also make a video with this setup ?
>
> What is o far your best ramp and what height difference does it climb ?
> Many thanks.
> Gruss / Best regards, Stefan Hartmann
> ----

Hi Stefan,

No repel forces in the tracks begining. Lots of repel at the ends of the two
tapered rails. Notice the rails are spaced very wide at the beginning or
runner entry point.  You will have to experiment with the magnets you are
using to find your own sweet spot angle.

I did not have a longer plank at that time and did not expect the runner
roller to move that far.

I will make an illustration of the rails and how they are constructed and
send it to you.

Forget using the iron Vs for the track now. They did not work out as well as
I thought they would.

I never tried to incline the runner magnet.  I was totally absorbed with the
fact that the runner actually rolled as it did on a level surface.

If  the runner was directed into another setup just like the one in the
movie clip I see no reason that why the runner would not accellerate much
faster.

I learned one thing real quick and that was use a heavy stacked ring magnet
runner magnet with a lot of surface area contacting the track.   If the
runner is very light all it will do is spin around and jump/stick to the
nearest attraction pont. The weight and surface area of the runner magnet
acts as sort of a DAMPER and by the time the runner trys to react on forces
pushing and pulling on it -- it already is past those forces and directs
itself towards the next set of forces acting on it. And so on.  This way it
now can roll in a left-right- right- left staggered fashion using its own
power and that of the track rails.

If the rails you see in the movie clip came together at the ends you would
most certainly have created the dreaded "sticky spot" and that would stop
all runner action.  Both sides of the runner magnet now would be "PINCHED"
or pushed  inwards and all runner action stops dead.

Tom



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