Working SMOT ramp from Tom Ferko ?

[magnetman12003]

Hi all,

I have been at this for better than 30 years and this is the closest I have ever been.

I have tried about 2000 ways to use just permanent magnets and/with iron alone in different configurations on a quest to convert magnetic forces directly into a rotating mechanical force.

Just to many problems to deal with unless you use electronics. The Paul Sprain motor for example. That then defeats the self runner or perpetual motion idea you might have started with.  I elected to keep electronics and electricity out of this.

Adding gravity into what you are constructing from magnets seems to be the best answer I have found so far. Go repel alone or attract alone and add gravity someway. Gravity power is real cheap.  Ha.


Tom

[magnetman12003]

Hi All,

In the very last illustration I posted a balance beam that had to be shortened so the fixed magnets were resting on the base board. I already did this after a lot of experimenting with the repel power my magnets can deliver.  You must experiment with your ring magnet power and a lot of construction distance variables in order to make this work. 

The spacing of the fixed ring magnets is critical relative to the runner magnet.  If you can place each fixed magnet on a platform  that can be easily adjusted, moved, and locked into place so much the better.

I cant claim it will work using small light ring magnets.  I am using 3 heavy five pound ring magnets and found my balace beam total lenght needed to be 13 1/8 inch.

The ring magnet was "ALMOST" ready to go over the beams centerpoint on the inclined beam you can see in my last illustration. 

You will find that extra forcing or compressing the runner magnet closer to the fixed magnet by hand and suddenly releasing it that it will now shoot over center with a great deal of force.

What you have done is the same thing gravity pulling on the ring magnet coming down the inclined beam does.  The resultant extra compression of the repel forces will propel/bounce the runner magnet back the other way and the cycle repeats itself again and again. The balance beam goes into a see - saw type action.  The runner does not center itself on the  balance point as you think it will do.  Thats an old myth. 

I am doing this right now.  Unbelievably simple!!    If I get this to operate for one week straight I will make a movie. I dont know what other problems may pop up so I am still calling this a device insted of a usable self powered motor.   Tom

[Omnibus]

Do you mean it is swaying up and down on its own for hours with no energy input? If that's the case you don't need to wait to see it working for a week. Make a video right away and let's try to independently reproduce it.

[magnetman12003]

Hi All,

I still am experimenting with this but it still needs some more tweeking.

So far its the best thing I have ever run across par none.

When I am satisfied I will tell all what magnets I used and all dimentions of the balance beam framework that worked out the best using them.

Tom

[magnetman12003]

Hi All,

The device still needs some more work as described below.

It appears that the fixed magnets have to be able to roll back and forth (a little) on a  slightly tapered uphill grade.   Normally when the runner goes over the centerpoint  it encounters the force field from the other fixed magnet.  I found there is very little room for the back and forth see- saw action.  Its real touchy to find just the precise spot.  It works then quits. Make an adjustment - it works then quits. Ect. Cant have that. 

So-- I found the fixed magnet must be allowed to bump rolled "UPHILL" a bit on a slightly tapered grade when the runner rolls over the balance point and comes down.  The runner now pushes the fixed magnet backwards up its slight grade A BIT and at the same time its compressing the magnetic field between them.  There is room now for the runner to drop lower on the downward leg of the balance beam.

The runner then is bumped back up over the centerpoint of the beam by the gravity assisted compressed magnetic field.

In the meantime the fixed magnet roll returns (by gravity) to the lowest end of its tapered grade close to the end of the balance beam. Its ready to repeat the cycle all over again. 

I am working now to see just how much of a tapered grade I need under the fixed magnets to sustain balance beam motion indefinetly.   I guess I wont be calling them "fixed" magnets in the future so adjustable might be a better word.   I will make another diagram illustrating that.

Tom