Working SMOT ramp from Tom Ferko ?

[mark australia]

Dear Tom,
Can I now asume that with a small kick start (finger) you have the device rotating continuosly. If so well done , if not i am sure you are close.  I have been following the progress of this with great interest.
Mark

[magnetman12003]

Hi All,

I have tested many simple mechanical ways to spin the heavy 3 donut ring magnet turntable motor idea but so far I have not been able to do this mechanically.  Its however easily done with a in - out pumping hand motion. A small rod magnet will spin the turntable.

I am going to make an electromagnet and power it with a small 12 volt battery to power the motor to get it running.  That is not keeping with the idea of a pure all permanent magnet motor idea but for now this seems the best way possible.

A hall trigger device will fire the electromagnet at a precise time and rotate the turntable using BOTH of its poles to do so. 

Remember I have all the South polaritys facing outwards on the three donut magnets mounted on the turntable.   Fire a electromagnet with both its north-south poles anywhere NEAR the between point of any two of the turntable magnets and  the table turns rapidly.

Essentially now the motor now will be a huge heavy pulse motor.  I will see how many days I can run it off a small 12 volt battery before it stops.  A highly efficient motor but not overunity.   No cigar for me-------.

If anyone has a good mechanical idea of how to time and power a bar magnet to move in and out (pump) real easy I am open for all suggestions.   The simple timing/pumping device would have to work off the power of the spinning motor.                             Tom

[Gregory]

Just a thought...

Have you already tried some piston-type mechanism, specially designed for your idea?
Maybe, a such mechanism can imitate your hands motion, but can be difficult to tune all right.
Or some kind of rotation of the bar magnet?

[hallo]

Hi Tom, Have you tried the spring based back and forth movement of the stators,
simular to Finsrud?s machine ?

[magnetman12003]

Hi All,

I am now thinking of this idea and I am presently running with it.

Make a see-saw type device with a single very powerfull light weight bar magnet on one end and weight on the other end of the see -saw that weighs the same as the bar magnet side.

By pushing up on the weight side the very powerfull bar magnet side will "BOUNCE" down into the turntable rotor field and rotate the turntable.

Now this is the easy part.  Very little energy is needed to do this.  A small electromagnet can push upwards on the weight side of the see-saw device if a flat permanment magnet is mounted UNDER THE SEE-SAW BEAM directly above the electromagnet.

When the electromagnet is tripped by a hall switch timing circuit the electromagnet will fire and push up - REPEL-  the small magnet above it mounted to the underside of the see-saw- beam.  This action forms the timing circuit where as the huge powerfull bar magnet is "BOUNCED"  downwards off the turntable powerfull magnetic field and keeps things moving.

Whats your thoughts on this guys?     Tom