Working SMOT ramp from Tom Ferko ?

[d3adp00l]

Heres a tought on the circlular curved rail post before this, use three sets of rails equally spaced, with at least half of a rail length separating the rails. by taking advantage of the accelated gravity you might just have something there. Remember, timing of the hard points in the acceleration zone of another.

[nwman]

Here's a thought on the circular curved rail post before this, use three sets of rails equally spaced, with at least half of a rail length separating the rails. by taking advantage of the accelerated gravity you might just have something there. Remember, timing of the hard points in the acceleration zone of another.

I had thought of that idea but I was trying to focus more on the SMOT shown at the beginning of this thread and how it seems able to escape the sticky spot. If it truly can then the wheel "should" work with just one set of rails in principle. No real need "yet" to make it more complex. I don't think "gravity" is playing a roll in this concept. Not at the moment anyways.

So lets say the SMOT works and it can propel like it shows in the video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6531588179303444480) Then by adding four more smots around a three spoke wheel like in the graphic below you would improve the performance of the wheel. How knows, maybe this setup is needed to make it work. I'm trying t take baby steps and not add more physics to the experiment then necessary.

First I want to reproduce Tom's video. If it works then I want to take what I know works and tweak it little by little by seeing if the same setup will work on a curved plain. It may even work better due to the fact that the wheel would be balance so the rotating magnets would have no relative weight (besides drag on the axle). Thus taking less force to move them. Then if it works on a curved plain (wheel) it should add energy to the wheel with every pass through the SMOT. The key though I think is the SMOT actually working. Setting up the three spoke idea below would even improve upon its performance even if it had a sticky spot...... I assume.

So note the picture below and fallow the rotation of the yellow magnet. At every point the wheel has one arm being pulled in, one being pulled through, and one at "the sticky spot" (if the smot doesn't work on its own). This would lead me to conclude that there should be near twice the force rotating the wheel then trying to stop it at any given point of rotation. Yada, Yada.

What do "y'all" think?

Tim

Note: Stage 4 seems not to be optimal but this is do to my hasty construction. With some tuning of the length of the rails it should be more seamless.

[magnetman12003]

Hi All,

I am going to video what happens when a runner magnet rolls just one segment of the illustration below.

Each color represents one segment of a complete circle. There are two segments mounted on each ring. 

There are two rings.  One top ring to be placed over a magnet wheel axle and one bottom ring to be placed under a wheel axle.

Superimpose both rings and you have whats illustrated in the photo C .

I forsee a working device doing this.

Note!!  By experimenting I found making a longer segment past a certain lenght does not work and the wheel magnet either slows down, works erratic, or stops. 

You will have to view a movie of just what one segment will do and this thinking will all come together.  If the magnet wheel runner meets up with the right magnetic signatures it should easily travel through the overlaping areas shown in the illustrated photo C.   That should set the stage for a MAG-GEN motor.

When I show this movie you will be impressed.  The wheel runner magnet actually turns rapidly in a "CIRCULAR" fashion.   Movie will show one segment working the ring wheel runner.  Illustrated below iis one completed ring with two segments mounted to it.  I have to make another ring yet

Tom

[magnetman12003]

Hi Tim,

I think our ideas are very closely related.

I forsee a working self runner soon.

Tom

[helmut]

Hello
This looks quite impressiv
At the End it will be a magnetic Motor/Generator

very good idea

Helmut